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UFC 258: Usman vs. Burns

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10.15.2020 | 10:36 AM ET

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UFC 258
  • Saturday 02.13.2021 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: UFC APEX
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • MMA Bouts: 10
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Bout   Info
Kamaru Usman   defeats   Gilbert Burns   via KO/TKO, Power Jab to Ground and Pound   0:34 Round 3 of 5, 10:34 Total Bout Page
Alexa Grasso   defeats   Maycee Barber   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Kelvin Gastelum   defeats   Ian Heinisch   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Ricky Simón   defeats   Brian Kelleher   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Julian Marquez   defeats   Maki Pitolo   via Submission, Anaconda Choke   4:17 Round 3 of 3, 14:17 Total Bout Page
Anthony Hernandez   defeats   Rodolfo Vieira   via Submission, Arm-In Guillotine Choke   1:53 Round 2 of 3, 6:53 Total Bout Page
Belal Muhammad   defeats   Dhiego Lima   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Polyana Viana   defeats   Mallory Martin   via Submission, Armbar   3:18 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Chris Gutierrez   defeats   Andre Ewell   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Gabe Green   defeats   Phil Rowe   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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RangerJW
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02.08.2021 | 11:55 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 27th with 3 others

It would be nice if either Usman or Burns slipped up and said something that only people in the gym would know, like how Perry straight up admitted that Cerrone would tap him in the gym all the time. Then again, I guess there's only one Mike Perry. 
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02.08.2021 | 12:29 PM ET

There's a lot of Mike Perry's in Florida 

* Edited at 02.08.2021, 12:31 PM ET *

"For no particular reason beat up everyone"

Hippie
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02.08.2021 | 1:34 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 964th

Munhoz vs. Rivera II
Jimmie Rivera, DEC
Dunno man, tough pick. Guess I’m picking Rivera. Let’s go El Terror!

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02.08.2021 | 1:34 PM ET

Simon v Kelleher

Predictions: 9 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 27th with 3 others

Simon is a bulldog of a fighter with constant pressure and volume and good chain wrestling. And since his KO lost to Faber, he’s shown that his chin really can hold up under most circumstances. (He took some huge shots from Font and ate a nasty knee to the jaw in his last fight against Pirrello.) He does have a lot of down sides, though. He lowers his hands in brawl situations and leads with his head when he throws big punches. This makes him really susceptible to taking big shots as he disengages his opponent. He also keeps his head square on the center line. If his opponent has a good jab, he’s probably gonna eat it through the entire fight. Another thing is that he frequently puts himself in trouble of the guillotine. He hasn’t paid for doing that yet, but he might against Kelleher, who has 7 guillotine finishes. Kelleher has good feints and uses solid kicks to stay at a range where he’s comfortable. He also has a very powerful overhand right and strong counters for anyone who drops their hands when they engage. The problem with Kelleher is that he doesn’t always dictate the range. He was one step behind Stamaan, who had the speed advantage (much like Simon will), and it took him an entire round to get settled against Azure. When Kelleher does find his range, he’s dangerous. I don’t think Simon is going to let Kelleher get comfortable. I think he’ll put the pressure on and keep Kelleher fighting off the back foot for most of the fight. Kelleher will always have the counter as a weapon, but Simon should be able to keep him from planting his feet and generating enough power to put him out. If Simon can avoid recklessly shooting in and exposing his neck to the guillotine, he should be able to outwork Kelleher for the decision win.

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02.08.2021 | 1:35 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 3710th

Andre Ewell vs. Chris Gutierrez
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02.08.2021 | 2:11 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 863rd

If you really want to know how stupid some MMA fans are and how powerful the MMA hype machine. Knocking out GM3 in 40 secounds make you a bum who +200 underdog  against a guy who on a 3 fight losing streak  ,while knocking out GM3 in 20 seconds make you a god who the next Khabib, And is a -200 to  a guy who on a 8 fight winning streak and the number 3 guy in world

* Edited at 02.08.2021, 2:15 PM ET *

"Quack quack quack"

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02.08.2021 | 2:16 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 175 Points   |   Tied for 3726th

Ewell vs Gutierrez is lowkey a fire fight, I think I have Gutierrez in this one.

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02.08.2021 | 2:23 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 2278th

I have trouble having confidence in Ewell, he's not the kind of fighter I would want to bet money on.

and @damien if you want to look at it through the lens of what they did to GM3, sure it can look like that. But styles make fights and those odds are the way they are for a reason.

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02.08.2021 | 3:00 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 3558th

USMAN :
Height: 6'0" (183cm) | Reach: 77.5" (197cm)

BURNS :
Height: 5'10" (178cm) | Reach: 71.0" (180cm)


Quite a significant difference in height and reach! 
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2021.02.08 3:01 PM ET

bout announced

Andre Ewell vs. Chris Gutierrez at 140 lbs (63.5 kg)
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02.08.2021 | 3:09 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 795th

@TARTARA

Those stats only really matter depending on what type of fight you think it's gonna be. If the fight stays standing, then those stats could be significant but if it ends up on the ground for most of it then the height difference doesn't really come into play a lot. Personally, I think Usman will try to bring it to the mat in order to try and control Burns for a decision victory but Burns is also a very capable wrestler so he probably won't mind too much if Usman tries to do that and may even end up controlling Usman himself. Either way, I don't think that this is going to be a striking match between them and I can see most of the significant action being on the ground so I don't think those stats will be too important in this one.

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02.08.2021 | 3:48 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 3558th

Stephen Terry
True! Whichever three-way road it takes 
(standing - mating - fencesing) 
I think it is already interesting!

#_ . _ . _ . _ . 

* Edited at 02.08.2021, 3:50 PM ET *

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02.08.2021 | 3:57 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 4 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 964th

Can't be doing that MMA math with Ian Heinisch and GM3 and Khamzat. Whether right or wrong, Khamzat's hype came from fighting twice in ten days, fighting three times during the pandemic and not getting hit with a single punch. Add all that up with his calm yet serial killer demeanor, a star is born. 

None of that adds up to make Heinisch the favorite against Gastellum.
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02.08.2021 | 4:31 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 347th

Usman vs. Burns
Gilbert Burns, DEC
Cardio and Clinch will determine this fight. I think Burns is psychotic enough to keep Usman on his toes and disrupt rhythm to the point that Usman can't use his boring front-heavy style that grinds opponents out. Will Usman still have the cardio of an immortal in a wild firefight? If he does then there's no one who can beat him but maybe Colby 2 times out of 10.

Gastelum vs. Heinisch
Kelvin Gastelum, DEC
Man, I get how this makes sense on paper. Gastelum got done dirty in his last three fights. The submission specialist worked him. The striking specialist worked him. And then he just looked flat against Darren Till. With there being a negligible height and reach difference for what seems like the first time in any of Gastelum's 185 fights, this could spell a great fight for Gastelum. He's kind of like a three gear engine, he really puts it on the best in the third round and can maintain a great output across championship rounds too. Meanwhil Heinisch has a small tendency to fade, his best round is usually the first... half. After that he's still skilled but not really dangerous. I think Kelvin might drop the first, and then rallies for a UD or late TKO.

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02.08.2021 | 5:07 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 863rd

I was just memeing, I just find Khamzat fanbase super anoying and worst then Conor or Khabib because he beat no one and people think Khamzat to be some god while Conor and Khabib actully done ****. Leon Edwards is gonna kick his ass to a boring UD victory and should be -200. Lots of terrible fighter did the same thing to Khamzat opponent.

Edit: Heinich is live to win this fight  because Gastulum has look like dog **** in his last 2 fight.

* Edited at 02.08.2021, 5:15 PM ET *

"Quack quack quack"

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02.08.2021 | 5:10 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 2278th

@damien you say you're "memeing" but go on to judge Khamzat by his opponents again, so I think you were serious and now you're trying to backpedal upon further reflection. Just stick to your guns if you're gonna say something stupid.

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02.08.2021 | 5:23 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 3558th

damienhandel420


Although in the water you pressed your own mine with your own will! 
It is ugly to underestimate the "smallest" in this way!

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02.08.2021 | 5:29 PM ET

@fistymskickerchoke

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 863rd

I still don't think it was stupid what I said, I was meming a little bit because  Khamzat knocking out GM3 was  more impresive because he is a grappler but his fan base is toxic for what destroying  2 guy cut from the UFC. Khamzat  is a good fighter and could be top 5 soon, but overated as **** and anyone who think he beats Usman, Colby, or Burns   does tethered swimming

And  Wow what a suprise you have sand in you ******, Im in you head, A part of me think you secreatly love me, Maybe be right in a argument for once because Honeslty Im getting bored of are little lovers  argument 

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02.08.2021 | 5:36 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 2278th

This isn't a kindergarten playground, people aren't mean because they secretly like you. I think you say bafflingly stupid things on a regular basis because you are a legitimate moron, and sometimes I worry I'm insulting someone with actual mental disabilities. 

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02.08.2021 | 5:45 PM ET

Viana v Martin

Predictions: 9 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 27th with 3 others

If you watch Viana’s last few fights, the Viana that showed up in the first round against Emily Whitmire looked much improved from the Viana that fought Cifers almost two years ago. Against Whitmire, Viana showed a sharp right hand and sidestep counters as opposed to just backing up. She also showed better head movement and overall defense with her hands. I think she got off to a good start against Veronica Macedo, but ultimately it was mistake in position that cost her. (It was probably a good idea to take a year off between Macedo and Whitmire to work on her striking, and I think it shows.) Martin has shown some notable skills, including a strong overhand right, good feints, and good takedowns along the fence. She has also shown that she can keep her composure and recover if she gets rocked. There are some glaring deficiencies, though. Her defense isn’t very good, and she leaves her chin hanging in the air (that’s how Cifers cracked her). Her takedown defense is suspect, and she’s shown against Jandiroba that her jiu jitsu needs some improvement. In this fight, Viana should have the speed and grappling advantage. I think she’ll also have better footwork to avoid Martin’s right hand. If it does go to the ground, I expect Viana to have more tools to sweep or go for the submission. I have Viana by armbar or RNC in the second. 

Hippie
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02.08.2021 | 6:04 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 964th

Usman might pull off one of Oddsbot moves, Foot Stomp rounds 2nd or 3rd!?



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