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UFC 258: Usman vs. Burns

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UFC 258
  • Saturday 02.13.2021 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: UFC APEX
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • MMA Bouts: 10
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Bout   Info
Kamaru Usman   defeats   Gilbert Burns   via KO/TKO, Power Jab to Ground and Pound   0:34 Round 3 of 5, 10:34 Total Bout Page
Alexa Grasso   defeats   Maycee Barber   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Kelvin Gastelum   defeats   Ian Heinisch   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Ricky Simón   defeats   Brian Kelleher   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Julian Marquez   defeats   Maki Pitolo   via Submission, Anaconda Choke   4:17 Round 3 of 3, 14:17 Total Bout Page
Anthony Hernandez   defeats   Rodolfo Vieira   via Submission, Arm-In Guillotine Choke   1:53 Round 2 of 3, 6:53 Total Bout Page
Belal Muhammad   defeats   Dhiego Lima   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Polyana Viana   defeats   Mallory Martin   via Submission, Armbar   3:18 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Chris Gutierrez   defeats   Andre Ewell   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Gabe Green   defeats   Phil Rowe   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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2021.02.12 3:47 PM ET

weigh-in result

Gillian Robertson: 125.5 lbs (56.9 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:47 PM ET

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Miranda Maverick: 125.5 lbs (56.9 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:47 PM ET

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Gabe Green: 169.5 lbs (76.9 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:47 PM ET

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Phil Rowe: 171.0 lbs (77.6 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:48 PM ET

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Ricky Simón: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:48 PM ET

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Brian Kelleher: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:48 PM ET

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Andre Ewell: 138.5 lbs (62.8 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:48 PM ET

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Chris Gutierrez: 140.0 lbs (63.5 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:48 PM ET

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Polyana Viana: 116.0 lbs (52.6 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:48 PM ET

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Mallory Martin: 115.5 lbs (52.4 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:49 PM ET

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Dhiego Lima: 171.0 lbs (77.6 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:49 PM ET

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Belal Muhammad: 169.5 lbs (76.9 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:49 PM ET

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Rodolfo Vieira: 186.0 lbs (84.4 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:49 PM ET

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Anthony Hernandez: 186.0 lbs (84.4 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:49 PM ET

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Julian Marquez: 185.0 lbs (83.9 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:49 PM ET

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Maki Pitolo: 185.0 lbs (83.9 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:50 PM ET

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Bobby Green: 156.0 lbs (70.8 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:50 PM ET

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Jim Miller: 155.5 lbs (70.5 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:50 PM ET

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Kelvin Gastelum: 186.0 lbs (84.4 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:50 PM ET

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Ian Heinisch: 185.5 lbs (84.1 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:50 PM ET

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Maycee Barber: 126.0 lbs (57.2 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:50 PM ET

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Alexa Grasso: 125.5 lbs (56.9 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:51 PM ET

weigh-in result

Kamaru Usman: 170.0 lbs (77.1 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:51 PM ET

weigh-in result

Gilbert Burns: 170.0 lbs (77.1 kgs)
2021.02.12 3:51 PM ET

event start time updated

From Saturday, February 13 at 6:00pm ET to Saturday, February 13 at 10:00pm ET
2021.02.12 3:51 PM ET

event picks deadline updated

Fantasy picks now lock at Saturday, February 13 at 6:30pm ET
Erison
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02.12.2021 | 4:25 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 4 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 964th

Rowe is big, but he doesn't use his height and reach strategically at all.
rapidaveo
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02.12.2021 | 4:44 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 3287th

Perhaps Jacare taught him to use his height and reach. Rowe hasn't fought for 2 years, before that he fought the guys 0-2.
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02.12.2021 | 4:47 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 3558th

After the Mask Offs, 
I bet on Burns, my hand
from the knee up!
Leeees goooo

100persent

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* Edited at 02.12.2021, 4:54 PM ET *

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02.12.2021 | 5:14 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 2116th

Ufc 258 Face the pain will drop tomorrow

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Pezzie
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02.12.2021 | 5:27 PM ET

BOUT BETS UFC 258 PICKS

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 3287th



"never tell me the odds."

BetAgainstMe2Win
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02.12.2021 | 5:34 PM ET

@LucasGhatt

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 175 Points   |   Tied for 3726th

I normally would side with you but Deron Winn vs Arroyo made me not rely heavily on size match ups ever again just based soley on that lol
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02.12.2021 | 5:37 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 175 Points   |   Tied for 3726th

You definitely can't rely on just betting on the much taller's advantage. There is some advantages to being shorter too lets not forget that, but more importantly it's more about the skills of the fighters themselves.

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Erison
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02.12.2021 | 5:48 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 4 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 964th

Burns has a look in his eye like he wants this bad. If we're buying into the "they know from sparring who's better", it looks like Burns knows, or at least truly believes he does. Usman's been super quiet this whole camp and build up.
LucasGhatt
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02.12.2021 | 5:58 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 4 Winners, 1 Perfect, 125 Points   |   Tied for 3891st

Height didn't matter for Winn because he's a wrestler, Gabe Green is a striker and will have a hard time closing the distance. But I could be wrong. 
CheckLeftHook
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02.12.2021 | 6:19 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 300 Points   |   Tied for 2945th

Bobby Green vs. Jim Miller is off the #UFC258 card tomorrow after Green collapsed backstage following official weighins this morning, per the UFC. Ricky Simon vs. Brian Kelleher moves to the main card.
https://twitter.com/marc_raimondi/status/1360362441364762625

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Hyrm
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02.12.2021 | 6:22 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 1183rd

so nows theirs 0 appeling fight before the main card

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CheckLeftHook
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02.12.2021 | 6:26 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 300 Points   |   Tied for 2945th

Belal vs Lima

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02.12.2021 | 6:33 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 3558th

@CheckLeftHook


That doesn't mean that i am right! 

* Edited at 02.12.2021, 6:48 PM ET *

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02.12.2021 | 6:35 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 175 Points   |   Tied for 3726th

Belal vs Lima
Green vs Rowe
Maverick vs Robertson 
Ewell vs Guiterrez

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2021.02.12 7:00 PM ET

bout status update

Green vs. Miller Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2021.02.12 7:01 PM ET

event picks deadline updated

Fantasy picks now lock at Saturday, February 13 at 7:00pm ET
Hippie
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02.12.2021 | 7:09 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 964th

Another 1 bites the dust huh..  damn, sux.
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02.12.2021 | 7:19 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 3649th

Robertson vs. Maverick
Miranda Maverick, TKO, R2
..Huh. A little strange to see Gill back at it in a month. It's very unlike her to see her rush in. Remember that cut Santos left on her? Maverick can open that up again. I'll take a shot at that. But yeah, Maverick can look great here.

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02.12.2021 | 7:28 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 5 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 371st

Marquez vs. Pitolo
Julian Marquez, TKO, R1
Not a good fight to bet on . Iffy .

Green vs. Rowe
Philip Rowe, TKO, R1
Bet on Rowe by KO if ur gunna bet

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02.12.2021 | 7:39 PM ET

This weeks bets

Predictions: 3 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 150 Points   |   Tied for 3810th

Treat this as an experiment if you like - intuition/opinion/skill vs mathematical/statistical analysis. Some of you already know that at PredictionsUFC.com we have foregone intuition and embraced numerical calculation entirely. To date it has served us well. Watch this space and witness our demise, or be part of our glory. We'll stand or fall on our accounting degrees. Some of our bets this week:

Viana vs Martin
Female fighters are less likely to go to a decision. This pair however have finished or been finished in their last two fights each. Viana has a history of first round finishes. Martin has gone to decision in 3 of her last 8 fights. We calculate the chance of a finish at 69%, and are betting odds at 2.70 (a 32% margin).

Gastelum vs Heinisch
Some recent decisions between them (7 out of 16 fights combined). But both finishing in their last fight. We calculate a 58% chance of a finish. With odds at 2.75 for a finish, that's a 22% margin worthy of a bet.

Lima vs Muhammad
Both are decisionators, with a few exceptions. A high chance of a decision here. Worth a bet at 1.51 odds.

"Bet like an economist"

prod44
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02.12.2021 | 7:39 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 375 Points   |   Tied for 1611th

Green vs. Miller
Bobby Green, DEC
I'm just going with the favorite here don't think I'm cool if I get this one right.

Marquez vs. Pitolo
Julian Marquez, DEC
Everyone's thinking this is the Ponzinibbio fight reincarnated. As long as this dude isn't using up all his energy on Kendra before the fight he should be able to "pull it out".

Vieira vs. Hernandez
Anthony Hernandez, TKO, R1
I'm taking Hernandez by KO bc if he does it will be considered a very good underdog call.

Lima vs. Muhammad
Dhiego Lima, DEC
The odds moved too much from -300 to -500 on Belal I have to go againt but its a no bet.

Viana vs. Martin
Mallory Martin, DEC
I'd rather choose between joining isis and joining the taliban before choosing this fight.

Ewell vs. Gutierrez
Andre Ewell, DEC
Chris Gutierrez is a trap you must take Ewell! His range will keep the leg kicks at bay. Dude gets every decision too.

Simón vs. Kelleher
Brian Kelleher, DEC
This is a go ahead and betski. Kelleher has the heart of a lion, and Ricky Simon is looking through this guy like the bottom of the glass he's going to be looking through the night he loses to lil Bri and goes to the bar to blow off steam.

Green vs. Rowe
Gabe Green, DEC
Gabe Green's the pick go ahead and betski on a jetski and thank me later. Why Gabe? Cause the dude kicks! Why not Rowe? Too comfortable on his back.

Robertson vs. Maverick
Miranda Maverick, DEC
Maverick right? Gonna punch Gill's lights out? I do not know nor do I care. I am much too cool for women's mma.

RangerJW
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02.12.2021 | 7:44 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 27th with 3 others

@LucasGhatt We just saw Hooker get merked by a smaller fighter in Chandler, and Andrade didn’t need wrestling to crumple Chookagian. It’s just about how you get inside and take advantage of openings. Green has all the tools to be able to do that against Rowe, IMO.

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