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Spence Jr. vs. Garcia

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07.31.2020 | 4:36 PM ET

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Spence Jr. vs. Garcia
  • Saturday 12.05.2020 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 2
  • Promotion: TGB Promotions
  • Ownership: Tom Brown
  • Venue: AT & T Stadium
  • Location: Arlington, Texas, United States
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  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): 2,615,075
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  • Boxing Bouts: 9
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Errol Spence Jr.  defeats  Danny Garcia via Decision, Unanimous   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Sebastian Fundora  defeats  Habib Ahmed via KO/TKO   1:30 Round 2 of 12, 4:30 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Josesito Lopez  defeats  Francisco Santana via KO/TKO   1:30 Round 10/10, 28:30 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Eduardo Ramirez  defeats  Miguel Flores via KO/TKO, Check Right Hook   0:20 Round 5/12, 12:20 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Juan Tapia  defeats  Fernando Garcia via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Vito Mielnicki Jr.  defeats  Steven Pulluaim via Decision, Unanimous   6 Rounds, 18:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Marco Delgado  defeats  Burley Brooks via Decision, Split   6 Rounds, 18:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Frank Martin  defeats  Tyrone Luckey via KO/TKO   2:31 Round 5 of 8, 14:31 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Isaac Avelar  defeats  Sakaria Lukas via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page

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2020.07.31 4:37 PM ET

bout announced

Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia
2020.10.08 6:23 PM ET

event start time updated

From Saturday, November 21 at 8:00pm ET to Saturday, December 5 at 8:00pm ET
2020.10.08 6:24 PM ET

event picks deadline updated

Fantasy picks now lock at Saturday, December 5 at 7:30pm ET
2020.10.08 6:28 PM ET

bout announced

Sebastian Fundora vs. Jorge Cota
2020.10.08 6:28 PM ET

bout announced

Eduardo Ramirez vs. Julio Ceja
2020.10.08 6:29 PM ET

bout announced

Francisco Santana vs. Josesito Lopez
2020.11.14 2:31 AM ET

bout rumored

Kyrone Davis vs. Juan Macias Montiel
2020.11.14 2:31 AM ET

bout rumored

Miguel Flores vs. Isaac Avelar
2020.11.14 2:32 AM ET

bout rumored

Fernando Garcia vs. Juan Tapia
2020.11.14 2:32 AM ET

bout rumored

Frank Martin vs. Donte Strayhorn
2020.11.14 2:33 AM ET

bout rumored

Vito Mielnicki Jr. vs. Steven Pulluaim
2020.11.14 2:34 AM ET

bout rumored

Burley Brooks vs. Marco Delgado
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11.24.2020 | 2:34 AM ET

Countdown show

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points   |   1st Place



"Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe ****! "

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11.24.2020 | 2:34 AM ET

Countdown Part 2

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points   |   1st Place



"Sometimes maybe good, sometimes maybe ****! "

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11.24.2020 | 2:45 AM ET

Spence Car Crash! How is he still alive!!????

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points   |   1st Place

Honestly I can't believe just how lucky Erroll Spence is to be alive!!!  That crash was crazy!!!!  Well over 100mph, in a Ferrari, multiple flips, MF'er had no seat belt on!!! Thrown through the window. 

Comes out with a severe skin burn and lost a lotta teeth.  The man should be dead or at least severely injured, disabled.  The fact that he is fighting in a World Title fight vs a top 5 147lber is feckin MAD!!!    

I have a feeling that Spence is going to be a different fighter. Maybe not permanently but I think there has to be some affect on his ability. He isjumping straight into 



Here's the CCTV of the

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11.24.2020 | 3:07 AM ET

Yeah, that's unreal.

After how Crawford looked last showing I think Errol might come out of that fight worse than this crash TBH.
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2020.11.24 3:07 AM ET

bout status update

Martin vs. Strayhorn Changed from Rumored to Fizzled
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11.27.2020 | 1:27 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 87th

It will be interesting to see how much of a chin he's got after a crash like that.

I don't know much about physics or health or any kind of science but I was talking about it with one of my friends who recons that the fact that he wasn't wearing a seatbelt and was thrown from the car actually saved his life as he would've died if he had stayed in the car. I can see the logic in it but it also kinda doesn't make sense at the same time. What do you guys think?

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11.27.2020 | 3:17 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points   |   1st Place

Yup, not wearing a seat belt was actually a very good thing for Spence.  Did you see the video, that crash spun and rolled about 1000x(a slight exaggeration but you know what I mean, it rolled a lot!) If he was stuck inside he likely get his skull crushed. You can find a pic of the state of the car after the crash and you can see for yourself he would've likely been crushed if locked in the front seat. 
Getting thrown out of the window meant he only suffered burns and smashed teeth. Still not great and he was lucky he wasn't thrown into a wall! I think he just kinda skimmed along the road on his face!
This is 1 of the rare instances where not wearing a seat belt was the safest thing. Actually, not really safe just lucky. Like I said he could have just as easily been thrown out the window straight into a wall, a tree, a building, a lamppost another car!  Yup, kids lucky AF!!!!! 

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11.27.2020 | 3:58 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 87th

@Mikey1903

Yeah the car is nicely smashed up! Very easily could've been killed. I'd expect him to become a much more tactical and defensive fighter after this, not wanting to risk being hit too much or at least not for his next few fights anyway. For this fight, he'd be wise to just try and outbox Garcia and get the win on points but as for my prediction, I'm really torn between him and Garcia for a decision. Spence Jr. is the better boxer but Garcia is still a dangerous opponent and that added with this crash I'm sorta leaning more towards Garcia at this point but I'm really on the fence about it. I'm certainly not betting on the fight, that's for sure!




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2020.11.29 9:53 PM ET

bout announced

Frank Martin vs. Tyrone Luckey
2020.11.30 2:13 PM ET

bout status update

Martin vs. Luckey Changed from Confirmed to Rumored
2020.11.30 2:13 PM ET

bout status update

Davis vs. Montiel Changed from Rumored to Fizzled
2020.11.30 6:57 PM ET

bout status update

Ramirez vs. Ceja Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2020.12.01 4:57 PM ET

bout status update

Flores vs. Avelar Changed from Rumored to Fizzled
2020.12.01 4:59 PM ET

bout announced

Miguel Flores vs. Eduardo Ramirez
2020.12.01 11:00 PM ET

event start time updated

From Saturday, December 5 at 8:00pm ET to Saturday, December 5 at 9:00pm ET
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12.02.2020 | 12:17 AM ET

HYPE!!!!

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points   |   1st Place



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2020.12.02 10:19 AM ET

bout rumored

Isaac Avelar vs. Sakaria Lukas
2020.12.02 10:21 PM ET

bout status update

Fundora vs. Cota Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2020.12.02 10:22 PM ET

bout announced

Habib Ahmed vs. Sebastian Fundora
2020.12.02 10:22 PM ET

bout status update

Avelar vs. Lukas Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
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12.02.2020 | 10:46 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 34th with 15 others

Ahmed vs. Fundora
Sebastian Fundora, DEC
Easy win!

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12.04.2020 | 8:00 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 87th

Spence Jr. vs. Garcia
Errol Spence Jr., DEC
I know nothing about boxing but I've heard of Spence Jr. so he should win but I'm not sure how badly that car accident affected him. I think his raw talent will see him through.

Santana vs. Lopez
Josesito Lopez, DEC
This looks close on the records but Lopez has more experience so I'll go with him here.

Flores vs. Ramirez
Eduardo Ramirez, DEC
This is too close to call. Most seem to be going for Ramirez so I trust that they know more than me about boxing.

Ahmed vs. Fundora
Habib Ahmed, DEC
Ahmed only lost once but 87% have picked Fundora? Wouldn't Ahmed have improved as a boxer because of that loss? I'll join Ahmed's 13% club.

Garcia vs. Tapia
Fernando Garcia, TKO, R3
8 of Garcia's wins have come by KO/TKO so I guess he'll carry on doing what he does best!

Mielnicki Jr. vs. Pulluaim
Vito Mielnicki Jr., TKO, R4
The records are very close but Mielnicki Jr. has the slightly better one. He also has some wins by KO/TKO as well.

Brooks vs. Delgado
Burley Brooks, DEC
Brooks is taller so I'll pick him.

Martin vs. Luckey
Frank Martin, TKO, R2
Martin has 8 KO/TKO's and Luckey has been KO/TKO'd 8 times.

Avelar vs. Lukas
Sakaria Lukas, DEC
Lukas seems like the more experienced of the two here.

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2020.12.05 12:17 AM ET

bout status update

Mielnicki Jr. vs. Pulluaim Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
2020.12.05 12:17 AM ET

weigh-in result

Vito Mielnicki Jr.: 146.0 lbs (66.2 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:17 AM ET

weigh-in result

Steven Pulluaim: 144.0 lbs (65.3 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:17 AM ET

bout status update

Brooks vs. Delgado Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
2020.12.05 12:17 AM ET

weigh-in result

Burley Brooks: 170.0 lbs (77.1 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:17 AM ET

weigh-in result

Marco Delgado: 170.0 lbs (77.1 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:18 AM ET

bout status update

Garcia vs. Tapia Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
2020.12.05 12:18 AM ET

weigh-in result

Fernando Garcia: 122.0 lbs (55.3 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:18 AM ET

weigh-in result

Juan Tapia: 123.0 lbs (55.8 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:19 AM ET

bout status update

Martin vs. Luckey Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
2020.12.05 12:19 AM ET

weigh-in result

Frank Martin: 138.0 lbs (62.6 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:19 AM ET

weigh-in result

Tyrone Luckey: 138.0 lbs (62.6 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:19 AM ET

weigh-in result

Isaac Avelar: 126.0 lbs (57.2 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:19 AM ET

weigh-in result

Sakaria Lukas: 127.0 lbs (57.6 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:20 AM ET

weigh-in result

Habib Ahmed: 152.0 lbs (68.9 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:20 AM ET

weigh-in result

Sebastian Fundora: 153.0 lbs (69.4 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Miguel Flores: 125.0 lbs (56.7 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Eduardo Ramirez: 125.0 lbs (56.7 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Francisco Santana: 147.0 lbs (66.7 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Josesito Lopez: 146.0 lbs (66.2 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:24 AM ET

weigh-in result

Errol Spence Jr.: 146.4 lbs (66.4 kgs)
2020.12.05 12:24 AM ET

weigh-in result

Danny Garcia: 146.8 lbs (66.6 kgs)
2020.12.05 3:56 AM ET

event picks deadline updated

Fantasy picks now lock at Saturday, December 5 at 7:00pm ET
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12.05.2020 | 4:11 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points   |   1st Place

Spence Jr. vs. Garcia
Errol Spence Jr., DEC
Was really tempted to take Garcia for the upset. Garcia is very, very good! He is an elite fighter, a win over Spence and he is nailed on Hall of Famer, if he isn't already as a 2 weight World Champion. Butttt! I think his prime years are behind him and Spence is, at the time of his last fight, a legit top 5 P4P Boxer. I say at the time of his last fight because of course he was involved in a major car crash, lucky to be alive really. Does that have an affect? Maybe? But we have to see it 1st. So I take Spence. Garcia has a pretty legendary chin so decision but Errol is an elite finisher on the level of Bud Crawford IMO so a finish, tho unlikely, is possible

Ahmed vs. Fundora
Sebastian Fundora, DEC
Never thought I'd see a 6'6" 154lber!!! Crazy!!!

Martin vs. Luckey
Frank Martin, TKO, R2
Unlucky Tyrone!! By the way, I am a little confused that everybody on Tapology seems convinced that this is the only undercard fight that ends by KO. I mean, just take a closer look. I predict PAIN!! Lots of KO'S on the undercard

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12.05.2020 | 6:16 PM ET

Accurate New Predictions

Predictions: 1 of 2 Winners, 1 Perfect, 75 Points   |   Tied for 132nd

Flores vs. Ramirez
I take Miguel Flores at -300. He has an eccentric stamina. Flores should nullify the TV audience. Trust me!

Spence Jr. vs. Garcia
I crave Errol Spence Jr. at -400. He has a casual high kick. Spence Jr. shall rattle the bandit.

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12.05.2020 | 6:25 PM ET

Pink Predictions

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 87th




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2020.12.05 7:43 PM ET

bout result

Marco Delgado defeats Burley Brooks via 6 Round Decision
2020.12.05 8:18 PM ET

bout result

Vito Mielnicki Jr. defeats Steven Pulluaim via 6 Round Decision
2020.12.05 8:19 PM ET

bout result

Juan Tapia defeats Fernando Garcia via 8 Round Decision
2020.12.05 9:08 PM ET

bout result

Isaac Avelar defeats Sakaria Lukas via 10 Round Decision
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12.05.2020 | 9:35 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 65th

Ramirez looking impressive so far...

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12.05.2020 | 9:43 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 65th

Damn, no feel out round for these two, heated early!

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12.05.2020 | 9:44 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 65th

Oh ****!!!

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2020.12.05 9:48 PM ET

bout result

Eduardo Ramirez defeats Miguel Flores via KO/TKO at 0:20 of Round 5
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12.05.2020 | 9:55 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points   |   1st Place

Yip. This kid, Zurdito Ramirez, is a fun action fighter. His last fight was also a similar type of all action performance.
Look forward to seeing him up against 1 of the top 10 Featherweights. A fight between Ramirez and Mongolian Olympic Silver medalist Tugstsogt Nyambyar would be another all action affair. The winner would be in line to face WBA Champ Can Xu, who I think, hold a record for punches thrown per round or total in a fight? Whatever, there is some great fights to be made!!!!! Just hope boxing doesn't do classic boxing and match them all up against guys who are 20 to 1 underdogs!!!!

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2020.12.05 10:42 PM ET

bout result

Josesito Lopez defeats Francisco Santana via KO/TKO at 1:30 of Round 10
2020.12.05 11:02 PM ET

bout result

Frank Martin defeats Tyrone Luckey via KO/TKO at 2:31 of Round 5
2020.12.05 11:12 PM ET

bout result

Sebastian Fundora defeats Habib Ahmed via KO/TKO at 1:30 of Round 2
2020.12.06 12:41 AM ET

bout result

Errol Spence Jr. defeats Danny Garcia via 12 Round Decision


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