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Bellator 233: Salter vs. Van Steenis
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U.S. Broadcast:
Paramount Network
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Promotion:
Bellator MMA
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Ownership:
Bellator Sport Worldwide, LLC
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Venue:
WinStar World Casino
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Location:
Thackerville, Oklahoma, United States
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Enclosure:
Cage
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TV Announcers:
Mike Goldberg, John McCarthy
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Ring Announcer:
Michael C. Williams
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Post-Fight Interviews:
John McCarthy
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TV Ratings:
314,000 avg. viewers
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MMA Bouts:
14
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Aaron McKenzie
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Sean Clements
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Submission, Rear Naked Choke
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4:31 Round 2 of 3, 9:31 Total
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Lucas Brennan
defeats
Jacob Landin
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Submission, Rear Naked Choke
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3:38 Round 1 of 3
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John Salter
defeats
Costello van Steenis
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Decision, Unanimous
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3 Rounds, 15:00 Total
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Andrew Kapel
defeats
Muhammed Lawal
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KO/TKO, Punches
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1:22 Round 1 of 3
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Arlene Blencowe
defeats
Leslie Smith
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Decision, Unanimous
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3 Rounds, 15:00 Total
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Tyrell Fortune
defeats
Azunna Anyanwu
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KO/TKO, Punches
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1:56 Round 2 of 3, 6:56 Total
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Tyree Fortune
defeats
Chuck Campbell
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Decision, Split
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3 Rounds, 15:00 Total
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Logan Storley
defeats
EJ Brooks
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KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage (arm Injury)
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5:00 Round 1 of 3
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Julius Anglickas
defeats
Jordan Young
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Decision, Unanimous
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3 Rounds, 15:00 Total
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Amanda Bell
defeats
Janay Harding
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KO/TKO, Ground and Pound
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4:44 Round 3 of 3, 14:44 Total
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Kyle Crutchmer
defeats
Robert Gidron
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Decision, Unanimous
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3 Rounds, 15:00 Total
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Romero Cotton
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Jason Perrotta
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Submission, Verbal (knee Injury)
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2:16 Round 1 of 3
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Christian Edwards
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Cesar Bennett
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KO/TKO, Left Head Kick
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0:16 Round 1 of 3
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Grant Neal
defeats
Jimmy Lugo
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Decision, Unanimous
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3 Rounds, 15:00 Total
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- JAGUARX007
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SPLIT van Steenis
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- ImperatorFishrat
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@jaguar you're on drugs bud.
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- Mikey1903
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Man Salter won that decision but he lost the fight!
Clung on for dear life at the end!!! That takedown in the 3rd saved it from being a draw!
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- CarteLL
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Yeah.. you owe me that perfect van Steenis.
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- JAGUARX007
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***KKKKKKKKKKK
2019.11.08
10:59 PM ET
bout result
John Salter defeats Costello van Steenis via 3 Round Decision
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- tmmaik
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Great work by Costello van Steenis
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@Jaguar how can you award that to Van Steenis???? Like I said he done the damage but he lost ths 1st 2 rounds.
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- Bigbadbrybry
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Doesn’t look like Salter won that fight!! Lol
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- Ktheking54
Well said Mikey. Maybe Van Steenis would have won under Pride FC scoring.
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- tmmaik
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Salter has only ground Work!! van Steenis was better!
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- Bigbadbrybry
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The classic wrestler win.. get beat up, win on control and position.. annoying
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- ImperatorFishrat
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@ bry It's scoring outcomes like that that make you question the whole system. Not quite as bad as the last Hendo vs Bisping though...
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2019.11.08
11:04 PM ET
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Lucas Brennan vs. Jacob Landin
Tapology Community Predictions: 422
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KO/TKO
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Submission
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Decision
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The scoring was not good. cuz how effective were those ground work? Non
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- Bigbadbrybry
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Bring on ROAD FC, then UFC from the mother country
2019.11.08
11:06 PM ET
Round 1 In Progress
Lucas Brennan vs. Jacob Landin
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And to be fair, Jaguar is half right. Control and dominance can't be scored unless the primary criteria of immediate damage isn't met by either fighter. Why he's wrong is that for that fight to have been even a draw, the third would have had to have been a 10-8...and you don't get 10-8's finishing the last 30 seconds on your back slipping punches.
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- Mikey1903
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Yeah Van Steenis wouldve won under Pride rules. But he foufht in Bellator, he definitely lost the 1st 2 rounds. Even if he did damage in the 3rd the takedown stopped it being a 10-8. So he lost his shot at a draw no way did he wim
I prefer Pride/ONE scoring because they guy who wins the "fight" wins. With 10-9 scoring it does favour wrestlers/grapplers
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- tmmaik
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You can not score something that does not has an effect or outcome. for example I get you to ground i get one point and than you step back up you get one point. like that the system has to work. how effective were those take downs?
2019.11.08
11:09 PM ET
bout result
Lucas Brennan defeats Jacob Landin via Submission at 3:38 of Round 1
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This kids ground skills are pretty tight!!
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- Mikey1903
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That Brennan kid is good. That was a nasty choke!!! Never seen that before
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They were effective in terms of control, hence they did have an outcome. In the absence of immediate damage in the first two rounds, cumulative damage becomes the next consideration. That was at least a push, and probably favored saltynuts. If it was a push, then the criteria becomes control. He controlled where the fight went for two rounds. All the damage he took came in the third.
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