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05.22.2019 | 1:52 AM ET

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Pacquiao vs. Thurman
  • Saturday 07.20.2019 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View
  • Promotion: TGB Promotions
  • Ownership: Tom Brown
  • Co-Promoter: MP Promotions
  • Venue: MGM Grand
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
  • Enclosure: Ring
  • Boxing Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Manny Pacquiao  defeats  Keith Thurman via Decision, Split   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Caleb Plant  defeats  Mike Lee via Decision, Unanimous   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Yordenis Ugas  defeats  Omar Figueroa Jr. via Decision, Unanimous   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Luis Nery  defeats  Juan Carlos Payano via KO/TKO   1:42 Round 9/12, 25:42 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Efe Ajagba  defeats  Ali Eren Demirezen via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Sergei Lipinets  defeats  Jayar Inson via KO/TKO   0:57 Round 2 of 10, 3:57 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Abel Ramos  defeats  Jimmy Williams via KO/TKO   2:43 Round 4 of 8, 11:43 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Genisis Libranza  defeats  Carlos Maldonado via KO/TKO   2:58 Round 4 of 8, 11:58 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   John Leo Dato  defeats  Juan Antonio Lopez via KO/TKO   2:58 Round 4 of 8, 11:58 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Peter Dobson  defeats  Emmanuel Medina via KO/TKO   1:18 Round 5 of 8, 13:18 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Austin Dulay  vs.  Justin Pauldo Overturned to No Contest   0:46 Round 3 of 6, 6:46 Total Bout Page

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2019.05.22 1:53 AM ET

bout announced

Keith Thurman vs. Manny Pacquiao
2019.05.22 1:54 AM ET

bout announced

Caleb Plant vs. Mike Lee
2019.07.02 11:13 PM ET

bout announced

Yordenis Ugas vs. Omar Figueroa Jr.
2019.07.02 11:13 PM ET

bout announced

Luis Nery vs. Juan Carlos Payano
2019.07.02 11:14 PM ET

bout announced

Sergei Lipinets vs. John Molina Jr.
2019.07.02 11:15 PM ET

bout announced

Efe Ajagba vs. Ali Eren Demirezen
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07.15.2019 | 2:07 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

Thurman vs. Pacquiao
Manny Pacquiao, DEC
Enter Your Comments Whatta outstanding fight.. Annnd welllll played on Manny's part. Manny is still Manny, even at 40. he's still retained his speed, and his crisp hands. Speed is usually one of the 1st things to go. So I expect Manny to use his speed and footwork. I'll give Thurman the power advantage. Don't get me wrong, Thurman can win this fight. He's got the talent to do so, I just reeaaally think it woulda been better for Thurman, if this fight happened 2-3 yrs ago, Before the injury, before the looong layoff. That fight against Josésito López, he almost lost that fight, he barely escaped the one round, got hurt multiple times. He fights like that, Manny gonna finish him.

Plant vs. Lee
Caleb Plant, DEC
This fight reeaaally interests me. You got two, fighter's fighters.. Mike Lee coming down from Light-Heavyweight and he's convinced, He's got the power to KO Plant, and he likely does. Mike Lee is also smart as ****. Dude gotta degree in finance and turned down a kushy job on wall street to pursue his dream of being a boxer. Only he's not just a boxer, but he's a world title challenging boxer. Caleb Plant, whatta likeable guy, and you can't help but be inspired by the guy. He fights in the memory of the little girl he lost. He's probably one of the cleanest, true boxer's in the game today. Kinda a throwback in a way. Keep your eye on this fight. It's the main event on FOX, but the prelims technically

Ugas vs. Figueroa Jr.
Omar Figueroa Jr., DEC
Youuuuu want a fan friendly fight, put one of the Figueroa kids in there...

Nery vs. Payano
Luis Nery, TKO, R10
I wanna know where these tiny ************s get their power.. It definitely ain't no ************* Wheaties.

Lipinets vs. Molina Jr.
Sergei Lipinets, TKO, R8
John Molína Jr. is another one of those extreme fan friendly fighters, and he's got that Mexican warrior blood, coursing thru his American body.... The body which I believe is starting to break down. He's been in war after war, win or lose, it's a ****-king war. He likes making it ugly and bloody, loooves a brawl... But Lipinets hits hard. Reeaaal hard. Annnd I think He'll get Molína outta there. Not by KO, but either a ref, Dr, or corner stoppage. Molína too tough to get KTFO'd.

Ajagba vs. Demirezen
Efe Ajagba, TKO, R1
Efe Ajagba just might be thee scariest heavyweight RIGHT NOW, just ask Curtis Harper. Better yet, do yourself a favor and watch that fight. Ajagba got a TKO at: 01 without a single punch thrown. it may have been turned into a no contest tho. This Curtis Harper fat ************ comes out, got introduced, then Ajagba got introduced, the start bell rung, and this ****** guy, straight up crawled thru the ropes, and into the stands and ran up the stairs leaving the arena.... On national TV. He was sooo scared of this guy. Funniest **** ever happen in boxing

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07.15.2019 | 3:31 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 15th with 19 others

Very interesting that Thurman is the betting underdog here. I was not expecting to see that at all.

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07.15.2019 | 4:41 AM ET

I'm taking Thurman but he does fail to get out of first gear sometimes and could be handily outpointed. Pac aint what he used to be but he's still more than capable of decisioning Kieth. 
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07.16.2019 | 11:19 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 15th with 19 others

Thurman vs. Pacquiao
Keith Thurman, TKO, R10
I hope people keep picking Pacquiao. Get me a nice price on Thurman! OK Thurman had a couple bad rounds against Lopez but he still won comfortably and he'll be much sharper here. If he's anything close to his previous shape he'll absolutely destroy Pacquiao! I'm thinking of taking him to get a late TKO.

Plant vs. Lee
Caleb Plant, DEC
Plant should get a comfortable win here and move on to a unification with Saunders or Dirrell maybe Smith. After thinking about it the Dirrell fight is more likely.

Ugas vs. Figueroa Jr.
Yordenis Ugas, DEC
Taking Ugas here.. People are being fooled by the 4 defeats on his record which is understandable as in boxing a fighter with more than 2 losses is thougt of as done@ This is crazy when compared to MMA and you get all time greats with 5 even 10 losses! Anderson Silva had 5 losses before he went on the greatest run in UFC history! The new big thing Masvidal has over 10 losses! This is like this because in MMA your fighting evenly matched fights after 5 or 10 wins unlike boxing were you won't have a tough fight til after 15 or 20 easy wins! Boxing would be so much better if the best fought the best and who cares if you get a loss if your fighting the best Anyway, my point is that Ugas is a better fighter than Figueroa and I hope more pick against Ugas based on Figueroa having the better of the records

Nery vs. Payano
Luis Nery, TKO, R4
Nery is a wee savage. I'd like to see him face Naya Inoue. That would be wild! Nery has a lot of power and 20+ KO's Inoue is IMO is the P4P hardest hitter in boxing. Yeah thats a fight I want to see!

Ajagba vs. Demirezen
Efe Ajagba, TKO, R2
This guy is in the group of promising Heavyweight prospects who'll most likely to be the guy who beats and replace Fury, Wilder, Joshua etc. There's Efe Ajagba, Daniel Dubois, Filip Hrgovic and Tony Yoka. These guys are the future and its gonna be interesting to see how things play out. Then again it's boxing so they probably wont ever fight each other and will all win separate belts, there's 4 for them to share! WBC WBA IBF & WBO. Yeah thats probably what happens!

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07.17.2019 | 3:04 AM ET

If Thurman gets to around +150 It's gonna be hard to stay away from him, but I can't go in for less than that. I truly don't know how this fight is going to look, and I hate trying to pick fights like this where both guys have paths to victory but it requires them to fight 'that fight'.

* Edited at 07.17.2019, 3:04 AM ET *

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07.17.2019 | 4:28 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

@ brad, harper walked out of that fight because the promoters tried to **** him with no contract.

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07.17.2019 | 4:59 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

@Philip if that was the case, then he didn't have to go out on national TV, and really just make an ass of himself. If he was trying to make a fool outta the promotion/promoter, well he failed miserably

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07.17.2019 | 6:26 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

the fight had to start, he had to wait for the bell to ring to get paid what little he did get paid. just google curtis harper and you will see. he was set up to lose for sure, but the promoter tried to **** him besides. props to him for ******* the promoters who tried to screw him.

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07.17.2019 | 11:55 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

@Philip Ahhh, I see what you mean now. Once the bell rings, fights official. If he didn't let that happen, $000 money made. Because fight didn't happen. I see whatcha mean now.

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07.17.2019 | 1:03 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

So i read THE SPORTING NEWS story on Curtis Harper. They said TGB Promotions sent Harper a contract for $6k to fight Ajagba. When he asked if it would be on TV, they said no. So he signed the contract and sent it back. Harper claimed him and his ppl were treated like garbage and then later found out the day before the fight, at weigh-in that it'd be a nationally televised fight and then he demanded more money. But he'd already signed the contract and because he didn't get more pay, that's why he did what he did. They had comments from Harper's trainer, Nate Campbell (former champ himself) and his wife, and apparently they had nooo idea he was gonna do that either. They were both shocked and embarrassed.. Sooo it wasn't exactly that he **** himself coz he was scared, and not really about a contract either, coz he did sign a contract, he just wanted more money. But if that were the case, he shouldn't have signed the original contract. And fighter and camp accommodations were already paid for, so those costs had no affect on that $6k number. I get it tho... That $6k might not have covered his medical bills after getting trashed by Ajagba. (Jk jk) 

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07.20.2019 | 2:07 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

@TAPOLOGY ... There's an adjustment for the PPV. John Molína Jr. is scratched. He's Replaced by JAYAR INSON.. Here's the BoxRec bout details..

http://boxrec.com/en/event/788305/2357229

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07.21.2019 | 9:08 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 15th with 19 others

Pacquiao is a different breed altogether still going strong since 95' .... ***

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07.21.2019 | 10:17 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

Yeeaaaa, everything I said in my breakdown..... Happened. Annnd even after having Pacquiao circled since it was announced, what did I do?????? Change my pick to Thurman with a minute till deadline. ******* dumbass ************. When will I learn to stop going against my gut instincts. As for Manny. Dude is a legit, bonafide living legend. The guy is a timeless wonder. It's absolutely impressive when you break it all down. 8 Division World Champ. ONLY 8 division world champ. It's unheard of. And then you add that he's STILL, top level, elite, cream of the crop, At 40 ******* years old. And if that's not impressive enough, he's a goddamn senator. I can't imagine how much time that takes away from any form of training. You'd think he'd diminish by now, due to the age and current main occupation, the wars from 20+ some years, but he's still here, annnd he definitely isn't retiring. That I think reeaaally backfired on Thurman. Saying he was gonna beat Pacquiao into retirement, only lit a raging wildfire under Pacman's ass and HE WANTED Thurman to pay for it. 

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07.21.2019 | 11:22 AM ET

Pacman definitely is a master of the sport and Thurman made a mistake by giving Pacquiao extra motivation. Having said that, Manny really should consider retiring. He looked like a completely different fighter between first and second half of the fight. Looked tired in those last few rounds. 

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07.21.2019 | 12:22 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 15th with 19 others


He's on the JUICE people!!!  Didn't refusing Voluntary Drug Testing tell you that? 
"Oh but he got tested by the commission so he must be clean"  
Eh no! The Nevada commission who license Canelo to fight a few months after he failed, the same commission who get paid to have big fights are not going to find reasons not to have them it's as simple as that.  Manny's on the Juicy Juice!

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07.21.2019 | 9:03 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 65th

@Mikey ..  I thought you supported ppl on the "juicy juice"??? That's one of the main reasons you told me to check out KSW

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07.22.2019 | 1:16 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 15th with 19 others


Haha!  I only support it when it's blatant and both guys use it. KSW put 1 or 2 freak show fights on every card, everybody knows, similar to Pride FC, and everyone has a good time.
When it's hidden like this and people act like Manny's some sort of super hero and don't mention the refusal of proper random  testing then I have an issue
I feel there's a difference mate.  Some people love Manny SSSSOOOOO much they refuse to see it.  I get it the mans a boxing legend, 8 weight champ, 1 of this eras best and seems like a great person outside of boxing but I have doubts about steroid use

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07.22.2019 | 2:15 AM ET

90's era HW was the most crazy ass PED mutant festival in the history of boxing IMO. Watch Holyfield Tyson fights, both their backs look like chocolate chip cookies.
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2019.07.22 8:51 PM ET

bout result

Manny Pacquiao defeats Keith Thurman via 12 Round Decision
2019.07.22 8:51 PM ET

weigh-in result

Keith Thurman: 146.5 lbs (66.5 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:51 PM ET

weigh-in result

Manny Pacquiao: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:52 PM ET

bout result

Yordenis Ugas defeats Omar Figueroa Jr. via 12 Round Decision
2019.07.22 8:52 PM ET

weigh-in result

Yordenis Ugas: 147.0 lbs (66.7 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:52 PM ET

weigh-in result

Omar Figueroa Jr.: 147.0 lbs (66.7 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:52 PM ET

bout result

Luis Nery defeats Juan Carlos Payano via KO/TKO at 1:42 of Round 9
2019.07.22 8:52 PM ET

weigh-in result

Luis Nery: 118.0 lbs (53.5 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:52 PM ET

weigh-in result

Juan Carlos Payano: 117.5 lbs (53.3 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:53 PM ET

bout result

Caleb Plant defeats Mike Lee via 12 Round Decision
2019.07.22 8:53 PM ET

weigh-in result

Caleb Plant: 168.0 lbs (76.2 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:53 PM ET

weigh-in result

Mike Lee: 167.0 lbs (75.7 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:53 PM ET

bout result

Efe Ajagba defeats Ali Eren Demirezen via 10 Round Decision
2019.07.22 8:53 PM ET

weigh-in result

Efe Ajagba: 242.0 lbs (109.8 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:53 PM ET

weigh-in result

Ali Eren Demirezen: 247.5 lbs (112.3 kgs)
2019.07.22 8:54 PM ET

bout status update

Lipinets vs. Molina Jr. Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2019.07.22 8:54 PM ET

bout announced

Sergei Lipinets vs. Jayar Inson
2019.07.22 8:55 PM ET

bout announced

Abel Ramos vs. Jimmy Williams
2019.07.22 8:57 PM ET

bout announced

Genisis Libranza vs. Carlos Maldonado
2019.07.22 8:58 PM ET

bout announced

John Leo Dato vs. Juan Antonio Lopez
2019.07.22 8:58 PM ET

bout announced

Peter Dobson vs. Emmanuel Medina
2019.07.22 9:01 PM ET

bout announced

Austin Dulay vs. Justin Pauldo
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07.23.2019 | 12:37 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 15th with 19 others

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/27244105/boxer-dadashev-dies-friday-fight-injuries



Fighter on the undercard Maxim Dadashev was put into a coma and died this morning. Poor guy was only 28 and had a 13-1 record. Rip Maxim.


Edit: He was actually on the Friday Teofimo card, my bad.

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07.23.2019 | 2:31 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 5 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 15th with 19 others


I just heard the bad news an hour ago.  It's things like this that make me realise how every fighter puts their life on the line each time they step in a ring or cage.  Me personally am feeling a bit guilty for cheering on the other fighter Matias while he was beating a man to death.  It's ****** up!

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