Topic: Regulation, USADA, & PEDs
Slams
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05.16.2019 | 6:24 PM ET
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05.16.2019 | 6:33 PM ET
I think slams are just going to be very hard to police and legislate for generally. If you tried to add conditions to them they'd probably disappear from MMA entirely--no fighter would risk getting DQ'ed. It's kind of like eye poking; nobody wants to cause a dirty injury, but the risk is always there. Well, some do, but most don't.
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- MassaBruce
05.16.2019 | 6:51 PM ET
You know what did more damage than that slam? MVP's knee that literally crushed Cyborgs skull. I didn't hear people complaining about knees then.
and this argument that unless you can practice defending a technique, it shouldn't be legal. That's hilariously preposterous. You can't train to get knee'd in the face. You can't. You can't "harden" your skin-tissue from elbows, its the exact opposite actually. Only in 2019 America man...so pathetic. "i was watching a fight and somebody got hurt..it was dreadful, shameful, deplorable"...pure cowardice. We romanticize serial-killers and have 56 Law & Order shows but OMG somebody got slam KO'd...this is too brutal man!
WRONG
This is the most violent occupation on the planet, if you do not like such violence, don't watch it.
Also, comparing Prize-Fighting to ANYTHING else is pure nonsense. You know what else is illegal in ALL of those other sports? Kicks, punches, knees, submissions....I mean come on guy. *** are you talking about...
NFL isn't a "contact" sports, its a collision sport. Basketball is a "contact" sport. Massive difference.
Somebodies going to die in that octagon and NOTHING will change once its happened.
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- MassaBruce
05.16.2019 | 6:55 PM ET
I mean when will fans stop?
BJ isn't going to retire because people want him to, he'll retire when HE wants to. Nothing you can do about it.
I will not tolerate fake pity or pity at all. These are warriors, their deaths should be celebrated MORE than the victory. They CHOSE to get locked in a cage and scrap...NO result can be shocking. No amount of violence is too much.
Prize-Fighting was BUILT for the Greg Hardy's of the world. This isn't a platform to spread peace & love no no no. This is a way for violent human-beings to make a living and there is NOTHING wrong with that.
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05.16.2019 | 8:46 PM ET
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- MassaBruce
05.16.2019 | 8:49 PM ET
Childish at best.
05.16.2019 | 9:37 PM ET
05.16.2019 | 10:00 PM ET
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05.16.2019 | 10:26 PM ET
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05.17.2019 | 12:12 AM ET
https://mmajunkie.com/2019/05/big-john-mccarthy-explains-why-jessica-andrades-slam-of-rose-namajunas-was-legal
'Big' John McCarthy explains why Jessica Andrade's slam of Rose Namajunas was legal
00:15 09:42 More Videos 9.1kSHARES SHARE TWEET EMAILBy: Dave Doyle | May 12, 2019 3:09 am
Jessica Andrade’s slam of Rose Namajunas on Saturday night at UFC 237 was more than a little scary looking.
Namajunas landed at an angle that appeared to be just an inch or two off from inflicting a broken neck at Jeunesse Arena in Rio de Janeiro. As it was, Namajunas was knocked out by the move, which gave Andrade the UFC strawweight title.
Nearly as soon as the fight ended, though, the debate flared on social media: Was this move legal?
Spiking a fighter on his or hear head is illegal, and this was awfully close. But if anyone knows the intricacies of the Unified Rules of MMA, it’s “Big” John McCarthy.
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McCarthy’s officiating career began at UFC 2, and he helped craft the rules that legitimized the sport and helped it thrive. He oversaw bouts for nearly a quarter century before his recent retirement to take a job as a Bellator commentator.
And when asked by a fan on Saturday night, McCarthy confirmed that, yes, Andrade won the title fair and square.
Big John McCarthy ✔@JohnMcCarthyMMA271 people are talking about thisWhen Rose goes for the armbar she has a choice to either let go of the armbar or try and hold onto it and go for the ride that Andrade is going to put on her. There is no illegal slam when a submission is being attempted. It does not matter how she brings her down #AskBJM https://twitter.com/eyesshutopen/status/1127436393091932160 …
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When Rose goes for the armbar she has a choice to either let go of the armbar or try and hold onto it and go for the ride that Andrade is going to put on her. There is no illegal slam when a submission is being attempted. It does not matter how she brings her down #AskBJM
So there you have it. When a fighter holds an attempted submission, all bets are off. And Namajunas held onto a Kimura the entire time.
For more on UFC 237, check out the UFC Rumors section of the site
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- MassaBruce
05.17.2019 | 12:45 AM ET
05.17.2019 | 12:42 PM ET
05.17.2019 | 1:49 PM ET
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05.17.2019 | 1:51 PM ET
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05.17.2019 | 3:32 PM ET
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"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
05.17.2019 | 3:41 PM ET
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05.17.2019 | 7:24 PM ET
@Fish
“I actually think Rose legit didn't think she could be slammed while hanging on to a Kamura. I sure as **** didn't think she could have been either. Say what you want about Andrade but there's no denying she's a seriously stronk little *****. That **** was a feat of strength”
Oh no doubt. Everyone’s was shocked to some degree. MY point is, its still a situation where I feel her safety risk was hers to blame. IMO that’s type slam should still continue to be legal.
It’s the same when guys started defending those Rampage/Hughes slams by letting go and hooking a leg. I feel its her responsibility to feel herself go to the air and make the adjustment. I see it as Rose’s submission attempt is, not only being defended, but countered as well. If you want to take that ride and risk your opponents slam power vs you’re ability to absorb punishment, lock in, tighten and better secure that hold, the outcome is on you. YOu might get the sub vs 9-11 fighters but those 2x it went the way of the SLAM...that’s in you, boo. JMO
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