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05.13.2019 | 10:11 PM ET

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UFC on ESPN+ 14
  • Saturday 08.10.2019 at 05:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: ESPN+
  • Name: UFC on ESPN+ 14: Shevchenko vs. Carmouche 2
  • Also Known As: UFC Fight Night Montevideo
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: Antel Arena
  • Location: Montevideo, Uruguay
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Brendan Fitzgerald, Michael Bisping
  • Ring Announcer: Joe Martinez
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Michael Bisping
  • Attendance: 9,225
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Valentina Shevchenko   defeats   Liz Carmouche   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Vicente Luque   defeats   Mike Perry   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Eduardo Garagorri   defeats   Humberto Bandenay   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Volkan Oezdemir   defeats   Ilir Latifi   via KO/TKO, Left Hooks   4:31 Round 2 of 3, 9:31 Total Bout Page
Rodolfo Vieira   defeats   Oskar Piechota   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:26 Round 2 of 3, 9:26 Total Bout Page
Enrique Barzola   defeats   Bobby Moffett   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Gilbert Burns   defeats   Alexey Kunchenko   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Ciryl Gane   defeats   Raphael Pessoa   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:12 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Marina Rodriguez   defeats   Tecia Torres   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Rogério Bontorin   defeats   Raulian Paiva   via KO/TKO, Doctor Stoppage (cut)   2:56 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Chris Gutierrez   defeats   Geraldo de Freitas   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Alex da Silva   defeats   Rodrigo Vargas   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Veronica Hardy   defeats   Polyana Viana   via Submission, Armbar   1:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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freemoneyforall
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08.05.2019 | 7:33 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1396th

Wacca wacca wacca
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08.05.2019 | 7:51 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 6 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 1993rd

Luque just caught a sledgehammer to the face in his last fight first punch and came back and destroyed that dude so anybody questioning his chin....
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08.05.2019 | 7:55 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1396th

Best chin can't withstand a mike perry hellbow
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08.05.2019 | 8:10 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Lol! Perry couldnt even knock out Oliveira. Whenever he faces top competition he seems to let it go to dec. You can’t do that with Luque. Luque will counter strike Perry. Perry goes down and gets submitted or tko’d. 

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08.05.2019 | 8:12 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

I also do feel like in RD 1 or 2 Luque will pressure Perry to the cage and take him down then submit him for that easy quick win. Perrys takedown defense isn’t so well.

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08.05.2019 | 8:13 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Those are the two scenarios I see.

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08.05.2019 | 8:16 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 562nd

And that could well happen. Luque getting into a firefight with Perry in the middle and getting something much worse than he gives is also very possible. You also say that like Oliviera isn't good. He is. He's also a lot more mobile and harder to catch than Luque. If Luque fights perry like he fought Barbarena he'll go nighty night.

Again--not an intelligent bet. Especially if Luque is even money or the favorite. Gambling to make money isn't about who you think is going to win, it's about probabilities, value, and putting your money in strong positions.

* Edited at 08.05.2019, 8:19 PM ET *

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08.05.2019 | 8:29 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Luque is 5x better than Oliveira. Luque is more well rounded and has great technique, Luque can end the fight anywhere at anytime of the RDs. Great cardio as well.

Betting is about value and who you think will win. If I actually thought Perry has a huge chance of winning this fight I’d bet Perry but I feel he won’t. He can win but i feel thats a slim chance while Luque has a huge chance of winning like i said because he is more well rounded, better technique, great cardio, and can end the fight anywhere at anytime of the rds.

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Hippie
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08.05.2019 | 8:30 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 470 Points   |   Tied for 1483rd

Any thoughts on Luque catching Perry in a SUB say round 1 or 2ish.. ?
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08.05.2019 | 8:32 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 6 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 1993rd

im from orlando and will admit mike mike cant fight... hell brawl.. and throw punches but so will any other street rat!!! all he has is a punchers chance to win this fight. and thats against a guy with a preety good chin as of to date.
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08.05.2019 | 8:33 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Now a good underdog bet i like is Marina Rodriguez and maybe Gilbert Burns.

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08.05.2019 | 8:35 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 6 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 1993rd

yeah luque sub rd2 after hurting him on the feet
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08.05.2019 | 8:35 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

I’d feel Luque can get the sub in Rd 1 or 2. But he can actually do it in any round to be honest. Hard to say but I feel his best chances of getting sub would be rd 1 or 2 when they’re not all so sweaty yet.

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08.05.2019 | 8:36 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1396th

@hippie do u concur with numbnutz on luque?
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08.05.2019 | 8:37 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Hurts Perry on the feet. Perry goes down and Luque locks up a sub and Perry taps quickly. 

Or

Luque can just say **** this imma take you down. Takes Perry down in rd 1 or 2 and submits him. 

There’s just many scenarios Luque can end this fight. He can win by TKO as well.

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08.05.2019 | 8:37 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 562nd

There's only a slight chance he gets subbed really. Perry's TDD is 70%, he's been subbed exactly once in his career against Cowboy who has criminally underrated sub attacks and the brainpower of Jackson's to go along with it, and Luque's best sub is Price who is...well, pretty ordinary off his back and easier to take down. I think Luque would have to hurt him first and get a very favorable position.
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Hippie
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08.05.2019 | 8:39 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 470 Points   |   Tied for 1483rd

@free  just jumping in the conversation good sir

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08.05.2019 | 8:41 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Lol! You’re going to go with perry who is one dimensional and hasn’t looked so well? The Oliveira fight was ok, not too impressed. Perry has no wrestling, jiu jitsu, or grappling. He is one dimensional and has only a punchers chance.

Ill be on Saturday as usual. Smh. If anything I’d say you all who are picking Perry are numbnutz LOL. Probably you all like him a lot but just because you like a fighter doesn’t mean he will win. I actually like Perry but this fight is bad for him. Luque will win then face Robbie Lawler.

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08.05.2019 | 8:42 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1396th

@hippie genuinely curious on your thoughts. I respect your opinion as opposed to numbnutz. Guy makes 17 picks and thinks he's a hero.
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08.05.2019 | 8:42 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Perry hasn’t fought anyone like Luque tho lol. Luque looks impressive every time he fights. He’ll be fighting top 5 guys soon.

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