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Franklin880088
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01.24.2019 | 3:08 PM ET

This **** is just getting ridiculous. This makes USADA look even worse. 

When was the sample taken for this test compared to when was the sample taken that he passed?  Weren't these just days apart?  This looks so bad. Like how dumb does the UFC think there fans are?  Dana making a big deal out of Jones passed test, ahahaha

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01.24.2019 | 3:51 PM ET

I'm no fan of Jones and I'm not making excuses for him but it would have been worse if he didn't fail the VADA testing. The same metabolite was found that he failed for originally. It's a long term metabolite and the reading indicates that he hasn't ingested more of of it.

However, it is supposed to only be detectable for 30-50 days according to the literature, so y'know. 
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01.24.2019 | 3:53 PM ET


@Franklin

Do you really think Dana is concerned about the fans?  Or maybe he, just like his Hollywood sleazebag business partner Ari Emmanuel, is more concerned with the corporate dollars?  At this point the UFC has stopped giving a damn about what we people here at the bottom think.  Which is why I implore us as MMA fans to do one of the following three things about the current state of the product:

A. Quit complaining and just deal with it

B. Stop watching the UFC

or, and this is the option I would suggest if you really want the UFC to change,

C. Get in the ear of the advertisers and tell them to pull support to force the UFC's hand.

At this point the only way you are going to get Dana to listen to us fans is to make the advertisers like Reebok, Modelo, Monster, T-Mobile, and etc understand that you are not okay with them financially backing a promotion like the UFC that ignores drug cheating scandals and unless they put pressure on Dana to fix it, you will stop supporting them.  That is the only way I see us MMA plebs ever getting the head brass of Endeavor to pull their collective heads out of their asses.  Or, you could just walk away from the UFC and just watch RIZIN. But hey, what do I know?

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01.24.2019 | 5:05 PM ET

If Jones and Novitzky claims that these constant failed tests are from the **** pill he took awhile back, then this should justify the original extended suspension of 2 years for a first failed offense. 

It's a long time to be suspended, but if this stuff lingers in your system for a prolonged period of time then they should be suspended for a prolonged period of time.  

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01.24.2019 | 5:58 PM ET

That would constitute double jeopardy, which is a mechanism that I assume works in the US the way does here in Australia.
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01.24.2019 | 6:51 PM ET

The Vada and USADA tests showed the exact same thing, a few picograms of turinabol metabolites 33 to be exact. Also, he didn't fail either, he tested positive for metabolite which is still and may always be in his system, which isn't the same thing as failing. Both organizations, as well as the CSAC, have attributed it to a pulsing effect of the long term metabolite. If you don't know what a picogram is it is one one-trillionth of a gram or .001 nanograms which is close to nothing but just not quite nothing. 

There is no doubt, Jones, like many fighters, has used during his career. That being said none of the recent tests indicate he is currently using.  

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01.24.2019 | 6:54 PM ET


@BigJ

So these picograms could go as far back as three to four years ago?

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01.24.2019 | 7:57 PM ET

From what I've read yes they can go as far back as 3 or 4 years. According to the scientists who do the testing trace amounts may remain in his system for the rest of his life.  

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01.25.2019 | 12:12 AM ET

Shouldn't matter how much he has in his system. He's a cheater. He beats people so badly because he cheats.
As far as hornets political activist plan goes. I can only speak for myself when I say. UFC has got their hooks in me. With jon jones or without jon jones UFC is still top of the heap first show I wanna watch. I hope that changes and It will sooner or latter. But It Looks like later.
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01.25.2019 | 11:19 AM ET

I agree with Freemoney about the cheating part.


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01.25.2019 | 11:28 AM ET

@BigJ


 He did fail those tests, what your arguing is borderline semantics.   In order to be pulsing which is what there arguing with Jones, he would have had to take massive quantities of the drug with the desired result of it pulsing in your system.  So Jones excuse of tainted supplement is ******** and literally ****s on the argument of it pulsing in his system. Every single time he pops, should be treated as separate offences since the desired out come is for this to be happening.  However the fact that the VADA test came back positive but the fight night test came back negative actually suggest he micro dosing, as they where taken days apart, if he was actually pulsing, he would have failed both. So either USADA fight night test did not test for it, or he not pulsing and he micro dosing. 

Also people need to understand that USADA told Frank Mir it is impossible for it to have been in his system, for more then a few month. USADA stated this to Frank Mir, and stated that his excuse was impossible, siting that it does not stay in your system for more then a few months. Now there saying it in your system well over 14 months and into several years. They are literally contradicting what they said not more then a year earlier. Jones **** is such obvious lie, that I feel sorry for anyone who actually falling for this nonsense.  It is a clear money grab by the UFC who making it clear that if your a big draw they will move earth it self to allow you to fight and USADA will go along for the ride. 

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01.25.2019 | 11:32 AM ET

Who  cares ? Jon Jones is God. He is the true embodiment of self actualized Alpha Male. You can't talk about God like that ? 
Take it back ! I said take it back ! Stop --'%#%@^& resisting!!!!

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01.25.2019 | 11:34 AM ET

If you guys have a problem with Jon Jones because he is an alpha Male and the Greatest UFC champion of all time and banged all the others fighters  wives / gfs  backstage, take it over to ONE FC, ( ONE Championship ) you'll fit in over there. That's where all the loooooosers  who can't handle alpha males like Jon Jones go. Sheesh.  Y'all haters pathetic.

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01.25.2019 | 11:36 AM ET

Sorry that didn't come out 100% I ******  love ONE man seriously that's my favourite league right now ha that and "Fight Club Den Haag" where everyone sits with leg crossed rule unless your ........   .........

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01.25.2019 | 11:37 AM ET

*legs crossed

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01.25.2019 | 11:37 AM ET

Yea he such an Alpha, that why he needs to take a bunch of PED's to fight  a man who 7 years older then him and out of his physical prime, while jones is in the prime of his life. What an Alpha he is, except you know when he fighting DC and does not have the confidence to beat him clean. Yea he the most Alpha of them all, being 31 year old on PEDs taking on 39 year old clean athlete. Such Alphaness can't be questioned. 

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01.25.2019 | 11:50 AM ET

Exactly! Jones is a weak scared little boy.
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01.25.2019 | 1:44 PM ET

Well his momma is blind so its pretty obvious to me Jones dad started shooting up his 3 sons with every steroid imaginable. The fact that his brothers are in the NFL but still write with crayons proves my point. 3 mentally-challenged running around pretending to be men. Its ******* shameful. That whole family is a waste of life. 
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01.25.2019 | 6:42 PM ET

Whoa! I flinched a little when I read that bro............just kidding I've said worse. 
Let's just all give him another chance just to see how long it takes him to pop dirty again or run over another pregnant lady and flee the scene in a failed getaway attempt. 
Jon"the last outlaw"Jones.

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01.25.2019 | 7:32 PM ET



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01.25.2019 | 7:50 PM ET


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