Topic: MMA Media & Websites
Article 11 and 13 and the Potential Implications for Tapology
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09.11.2018 | 8:16 PM ET
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09.11.2018 | 10:46 PM ET
09.12.2018 | 12:05 AM ET
Is it unfair? Yes and no. Ultimately, content creators should have some say, more or less, in who uses their content and for what. And so should third parties who pay licensing fees, because as it stands, you've got a bunch of ****tards on youtube making bank for having done nothing. And nothing about that is fair.
What I don't like about it:
This will limit the ability of people to critique products and services, and the people who do this will be held to ransom by content creators. Either they will give favorable reviews to their products and services, or they simply won't be licensed to do it anymore under penury. That's bad for consumers. It will also funnel exclusivity and power to media megahouses, which is also bad for consumers--and it's not great for the truth, either. Article 13 is the worst, because it basically puts on every site on the hook for everything that is ever posted, and small sites simply will not have the resources to manage their indemnity. All this will do is make the big players bigger and more powerful, because the mandated effective content recognition technologies' don't come cheap.
it is good in the sense that it protects the IP of content creators and will make it much more difficult for rip-off merchants, especially on youtube, to make money from 'reviews' of games, fights, films and other media which are essentially useless and achieve nothing other than to make them money. There are so may channels like this, and they are basically just parasites. They need to be stamped out.
On balance however it's basically cancer.
09.12.2018 | 12:24 AM ET
@fishrat
Do the phrases "transformative content" or "fair use" not mean anything to you? If the laws that the EU are demanding to put in place, all of which have the convenient backing of the HMS Music Industry (oh gee I wonder why *eye roll*), then everything even as insignificant as making a ******* meme will get scrubbed due to there being no protections for fair use in the EU. And worse still, the people of all the European countries couldn't get to change it because they don't get to vote in the main lawmakers which are in the European Commission. It would be a one size fits all policy that would be absolutely authoritarian and destroy the vision that the likes of the great Tim Berners-Lee had for the internet, and that is the internet is for everyone and there should be no barriers to prevent people from having access. To me, these bills must be done away with as they only serve as tools for megalomaniac authoritarian despots to abuse later down the road.
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09.12.2018 | 12:51 AM ET
Fair use is mostly just code for 'I can't create anything myself, so I'm going to steal as much of someone else's IP as I can feasibly get away, add some facile commentary and/or tweaks, and make money from contributing nothing'. Most of the time, anyway. I have no respect, nor sympathy for such people and they should rightly be destroyed.Fair use is useful in some capacities as I have previously stated, such as critiquing products and services. TI feel this is extremely valuable and should be protected, so I'm against these new laws overall on the basis of this alone.
What is particularly scary about it all is how broad the definitions are, and the sheer scale of the discretionary power they give to content creators and IP holders. It's ugly. And yes, I agree--as they are written, these laws are a bridge too far and should be scrapped.
* Edited at 09.12.2018, 12:53 AM ET *
09.12.2018 | 8:24 AM ET
UPDATE
Well, it happened. The EU voted on the measures and the stupid boomers that compromise the EU not only passed Article 11 and 13, but they didn't even accept a single modification to the bill. So Europe has just implemented the most authoritarian and anti free market piece of legislation in the history of the West. So again I repeat, what the hell are we going to do? Because if any of us share a link, it is the platform that has to foot the ******* bill.
Edit: There is still one more vote to officially pass it, but if it has made it this far I sincerely doubt it won't get passed.
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09.12.2018 | 1:49 PM ET
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09.12.2018 | 5:26 PM ET
"Tom Breese Future Champ"
09.12.2018 | 6:25 PM ET
09.13.2018 | 5:16 PM ET
The actual nuts and bolts of it are pretty horrific, considering that link Taxes will mean that a host cannot include a single word from an article headline. Literally, not a single word. Tapology would also have to run bots of some kind to make sure it is in compliance.Everything would have to be scanned and mirrored against...well, I have no idea what--some kind of IP database? It's basically deep packet inspection. Just the act of running said bots will have serious implications for the performance of the site.
It's EU Law however, and the main MMA market and interest base is American. So there's that. I just don't see how this is good for Taology at all. I don't own the business however and you know more than I ever will. But what data is routinely stolen from Tapology? Analytics and raw data won't be affected by any of this in any way--it's basically media which Tapology to my knowledge doesn't produce. That's not the bag. Threads like the 'what song are you listening to right now' would have to go. Replays of ACB cards/highlights couldn't be posted, even the results of European hosted cards couldn't be backlinked...they would have to be entered in manually.
I dunno, Greg. The more I learn about this thing, the more I don't like it. Everyone is saying things like 'oh well at least it hits facebook and google the hardest' but that's patently untrue, it's the big guys like that who will be able to absorb and mitigate the problems this causes for the easiest.
09.14.2018 | 12:26 AM ET
09.14.2018 | 5:36 PM ET
@imperator
The worst part about it is that the laws were passed not through thorough debate over the main problems of the bill and making a case for or against with careful thought put into each vote, but by a simple raise of their ******* hands after getting the cliff notes version of the bill from their advisors. These people put as much thought and effort into it as a freshman level high school student trying to complete a book report and they have the power to shape the laws of an entire continent. Also, as a side note, on the same day that they passed Articles 11 and 13, they passed a bill that will create a police task force to protect European forests. Yes you read this right. The European Union, at the expense of every European taxpayer, passed a bill to create tree police in every member state. These people are just making ridiculous amounts of red tape bureaucracy to justify their jobs in Brussels and continue to earn salaries they are not deserving of.
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09.17.2018 | 9:08 AM ET
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09.17.2018 | 10:14 AM ET
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09.17.2018 | 3:04 PM ET
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09.17.2018 | 3:06 PM ET
someday we will all wake up and realise its All just a dream and ..... i had a got line but its gone ;( fck!!!!
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09.17.2018 | 3:08 PM ET
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09.17.2018 | 3:10 PM ET
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09.17.2018 | 4:58 PM ET
@mbach
When the main outside supporters of this bill getting pushed through are three of the biggest labels in the music industry in Sony Music, Warner Music Group, and Universal Media Group as well as two of the largest Television Broadcasting companies from Europe in Canal+ and Sky Media plc, you know that there is going to be some corruption involved in seeing this bill get passed.
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09.18.2018 | 9:57 AM ET
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"Where are my shoes?"
09.18.2018 | 9:58 AM ET
"Where are my shoes?"