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Who has best boxing in UFC

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lhmmafan
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06.08.2018 | 11:32 AM ET

Who are best boxers in the UFC?

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freemoneyforall
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06.08.2018 | 4:11 PM ET

Crazy as it might sound i'd say holly holm.
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06.08.2018 | 4:31 PM ET

Agree with Holm

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06.08.2018 | 5:31 PM ET

Holm should have the best boxing in the UFC, but she doesn't. She was outboxed by Justino.

It's probably Mcgregor TBH. That should tell you how great the divide in boxing skill is between MMA and pro boxing.

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06.08.2018 | 5:38 PM ET

Can't blame anyone for losing to cyborg. Mcgregor was good He's probably even better after training for floyd. 
My mind still went straight to holly.
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06.08.2018 | 6:07 PM ET

Part of the reason I know that Holly is juicing is because she's twice as shredded now as she was during her tenure as a boxing champ. And you know, Jackson-Wink.

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06.08.2018 | 6:12 PM ET

She is more shredded now because her body is completely different. You don't need legs that can kick or stuff takedowns in boxing. Her muscle mass and weight have to be distributed differently. 
ImperatorFishrat
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06.08.2018 | 6:17 PM ET

Sorry HJ, musculature does not improve with age. That is just not the way of things. She's massive compared to her last boxing match; which was back in 2013, and her mass is only distributed differently because she has tonnes more of it everywhere.

She's definitely juicing.

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06.08.2018 | 8:27 PM ET

Jds and Stipe deserve a mention. Nate and Nick Diaz both as well. So many good boxers but these guys def deserve a thought 💯

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06.08.2018 | 9:38 PM ET

@Fishrat


I normally don't follow up on my own opinions because arguing online is a pointless endeavour but I know you debate rather than act like a bellend and I respect that, so I will for this.

I don't see how you can say that her musculature isn't going to look more impressive when she has to cut more fat than she ever did boxing and also has to distribute her mass in a different way. Holly Holm's lower body as a boxer is not the same as her lower body as a mixed martial artist. If she is going to cut more weight AND add muscle mass to her lower body (and I'm working with a divide of upper and lower body for simplicity sake, it obviously isn't as clear cut as just distributing weight anywhere north and south of your belt) it must result in her upper body being more defined in terms of musculature than in her boxing days.


Does that mean she didn't juice? I have no reason to suspect it or categorically state she hasn't such is the current state of juicing.
I'm also no big Holly fan. I'm rooting for Megan, in fact I'm expecting Her Majesty to ask me to hand in my passport as a proud pom who is backing all 3 Aussies on the card!


Edit: I meant she cuts more weight to bantamweight in MMA than she did boxing. I know she bounced around a lot in boxing and did cut to less than 145lbs plenty of times.

* Edited at 06.08.2018, 9:41 PM ET *

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06.08.2018 | 10:03 PM ET

Shevchenko also out-boxed Holm, with ease. 

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ImperatorFishrat
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06.08.2018 | 10:15 PM ET

We'll have to disagree on this one HJ.  Even if it weren't for her unusually ( and unprecedented) masculine physique suddenly developing in her senior years, she quite clearly exhibits  ****oral hypertrophy. She was ( and possibly still is) sponsored by intel pharma which produces substances considered PED's and which are banned under WADA. 

Although it's all mostly conjecture, If it looks like a duck, and sounds like a duck, it's probably not a fish.

I'm rooting for Anderson as she's a home state Girl but I kinda don't want Tuivasa to blast Arlovski into the ionosphere, even though that's the most likely outcome.

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06.08.2018 | 10:38 PM ET

In the past...James Toney...



lhmmafan
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06.08.2018 | 11:36 PM ET

Top five 1. McGregor. 2. Nick Diaz 3. Nate Diaz 4. Wonderboy Thompson 5. Justin ledet
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06.08.2018 | 11:41 PM ET

Good point about shevchenko forgot about that.
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06.08.2018 | 11:43 PM ET

Nick vs nate diaz how awesome a fight that would b.
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06.09.2018 | 5:54 AM ET

James Toney / Betch Cohaya / other

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