Dan Henderson is ranked WHERE !?

Dan Henderon is ranked #53... ?!?#??$!%??

That's the wackiest thing I've seen on this site.Henderson may not be the flashiest/most memorable type of fighter, but you can not discount his greatness to that degree !

cry about it.

it's kinda true that despite delivering tons of epic knockouts through the years -- bustamante, chonan, renzo gracie, wandy, bisping . . . on and on -- henderson never quite catches on and gets the love from fans.  i don't know why that is.  maybe because even when he wins by knockout, his style is sort of deliberate and predictable.  he wades in and throws big right hands, and since he's very hard to off-balance you don't always see crazy unpredictable action with him.

Sort of an odd thing to complain about when you haven't yet made your ranking. The site rankings are an amalgamation of the individual users' rankings. If you want to improve Hendo's spot, start by ranking him higher yourself.

Make your ranking and put Hendo up high. It will probably bump him a few spots.

He has a point, though, look at your guys rankings, you have wanderlei above hendo...........several spots, most of you who have responded to the thread......
Hendo is superior to wanderlei, he accomplished mored, like being both pride middle and welterweight champ, and he accomplish this by knocking wanderlei the f out.

Though looking at my own rankings I should not be talking lol

Valid point about Henderson being a better fighter than Wanderlei. It's debatable, but there is a stronger argument for Hendo than against him. I think the argument essentially comes down to how you define an all-time great fighter. For example, on many of your lists, you have men in the same weight class ranked below fighters that they have defeated dominantly. It seems to be a combination of the fighter's skill and accomplishments in the cage, and secondly their accomplishments outside of the cage as well in terms of promoting the sport or being an important figure in the sport's history. Any fighter in the top ten all-time greats list should be impossible not to mention when giving a lengthy speech about the growth and history of MMA.

All of that said, if I go by the definition of all all-time greats list that I just made, I need to re-work mine considerably.

Wanderlei Silva is one of the enduring faces of MMA. His contributions to the sport, in terms of drawing people in, far outweigh those of Henderson. My list consists of those fighters that I believe you cannot think of MMA without.

Wanderlei was the face of Pride for years, was one of the biggest stars of all time, was involved in many of the most epic fights of all time, and when he was in his prime he beat Henderson. Just because Henderson KO'd a declining Wanderlei doesn't change all that.  

And even if technically Dan Henderson held both the Pride middleweight and welterweight titles, if you look up "Pride champion" in the dictionary there's really only 2 names that define it: Fedor and Wanderlei.  

Henderson won the middleweight belt as Pride was collapsing, in a match that didn't even adhere to Pride rules, and then never defended it.  Henderson won the welterweight title in a tournament for a division that didn't even exist before, and it was kind of a controversial decision over Murilo Bustamante anyway, where Hendo didn't look so great. He lost at that weight class a couple fights later but they called it a non-title fight.  By today's standards Hendo wouldn't qualify as holding 2 belts at once.

Not that he isn't a great fighter and deserves to be on the all-time greats list, but there's a big difference between him and Wanderlei. Enough said.

About my list of All-Team Greats -- I'm working on it. I'll post my list at some point. I don't know where Henderson end up, but it won't be as far down as 53.

I know about the rankings being a 'consensus' of the users' rankings, and that's kinda what I'm commenting on; the voters/users.
BTW, I'll be editing what I currently have on the list. The Gene LeBell pick (via Karo Parisyan), is kind of in tribute to the guy, a nod to one of the first MMArtists (Another BTW, Is there a way I can post fighters/fights that aren't listed in the queue/database).

When I think All time greats I think of overall accomplishments in terms of titles and level of competition. Also what kind of impact you had on the sport as a whole. Guys who have won serious title and defended them, guys who have beat a lot of top ranked competition. Nogueira is the only title holder I have who never successfully defended his title, though he is a Pride and UFC champion. The reason I have him there is because he fought more top ranked competition after losing to Fedor than prior to facing him. Royce I have there because on his contribution to the sport more than his in ring ability though in his time he was the best. 
As for Dan he managed to take the Pride title in 2 divisions which is good, though it was right before the company collapse. He should have lost the title to Misaki before coming back and taking the LHW belt which to me puts an * on his duel title. 

Another thing with the consensus, I'm not sure how many do, but I know I don't rank past top 15 sometimes top 10. So many of us may think Henderson is higher than 54 but not top 10. So when the consensus calculates it just gives point value and ranks. Moving Karo out of your #1 spot might bump Karo down the rankings enough to bump Dan up. 

Well said jeremy.  
Also, his general demeanor is just calm, matter-of-fact, and a bit sullen.  It's almost ironic that his nickname is "Hollywood" cause he actually lacks that kind of cachet.

Whether you give the edge to Wanderlei or Henderson, in this particular comparison, the point is that they're at least in the same ballpark.

Well you took Karo out and put Gene LeBell in, making Gene LeBell take the spot previously occupied by Karo and keeping Dan back where he was. If you think Dan deserves to be ranked put him in your top 10. It's as simple as that. 

I'm with BigJ. I currently only rank my top 10 (with a few exceptions). Beyond that the comparisons just get too granular. There isn't a lot of difference between #20 and #50.

I have Hendo right up there with the best he has done some amazing things man held titles in two weight classes knocked out wanderlei & bisping viciously .... I love hendo ...! he has been a top fighter all along & his knockout of babulu the other night shows us that hes far from finished ...

Another Championship belt for Dan Henderson... 
Anyone moving this man into their Top 10 after this?

Henderson has fought some of the best fighter's in the world.But that was years ago he just isn't fighting top competition as before. Though I agree he shold not be ranked #53.If he succesfully defends his title I'll might even put him in my top ten. Winning another belt at 40 years of age is quite an accoplishment.