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Jon Jones' License Revoked (video)
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02.27.2018 | 4:12 PM ET
He does still have USADA's judgement on the way though. We'll have to wait and see if they give a harsher punishment.
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02.27.2018 | 5:18 PM ET
"The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
(sorry lol i hate myself too..)
"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
02.27.2018 | 5:24 PM ET
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"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
02.27.2018 | 5:26 PM ET
(in Swedemark)
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"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
02.27.2018 | 7:38 PM ET
02.27.2018 | 7:46 PM ET
"I live, I die, I live again."
02.27.2018 | 8:49 PM ET
02.28.2018 | 12:26 AM ET
"I don't want to have to do this living. I just walk around. I want to be swept off my feet, you know? I want my children to have magical powers. I am prepared for amazing things to happen. I can handle it."
02.28.2018 | 1:12 AM ET
"You're all my children, I'll discipline you how I feel" Massabruce
02.28.2018 | 2:00 AM ET
Just Like Travis Browne.
*cough*
I'll show myself out.
02.28.2018 | 7:50 AM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
02.28.2018 | 11:05 AM ET
@Gregory @Imperator
02.28.2018 | 12:20 PM ET
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02.28.2018 | 12:26 PM ET
Also you think Dana is trying make an example of Jones? Not a chance. Dana wants Jones back so badly. He stated several times he thinks he will be back this year, but recently has backed off a bit. Dana in no wya shape or form wants Jones to get in trouble. It been quite clear to me that Dana been putting pressure out there so that they are easy on Jones, but it looks like it might not work. In fact it gotten board-line sketchy how much Dana was saying Jones will be back this year ect. I think there has been some clear pressure from Dana on USADA for Jones to get a lessened suspension.
* Edited at 02.28.2018, 12:34 PM ET *
"here I come to save the day"
02.28.2018 | 12:34 PM ET
Personally, I think he is guilty. I think he's narcissistic like Alex Rodriguez. I believe Jones started taking PED's when he was on the mountain top of the sport because he was concerned that someone would come along and knock him off. The sad thing is that he probably never needed them in the first place.
"I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture, and kill them."
02.28.2018 | 12:37 PM ET
Jones is so clearly guilty and has been roiding for years. He literally been caught cheating every single time he has fought DC or was suppose to fight him. Under USADA jones would of failed the drug test for his first DC fight as well for his low T levels.
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"here I come to save the day"
02.28.2018 | 3:12 PM ET
Ummm....what? lol
The UFC can do all the positive spin they want, it still won't factor into USADA's decision. Especially not after that abysmal showing in front of the CSAC. USADA may be partners with the UFC in drug testing, but they are still an independent testing laboratory and I'm sure that CSAC meeting solidified a harsh punishment.
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02.28.2018 | 3:45 PM ET
02.28.2018 | 4:32 PM ET
USADA ticks both boxes. Moreover it's not even a government department; it's a private company. A private company running a 'not for profit' model which charges very exorbitant testing fees hat has 'partnered' with the largest corporation managing one the most PED-infested 'sports 'in existence--said corporation being under no obligation to get into bed with them whatsoever. How exorbitant are their fees exactly? Well, in real terms it's about 200% the typical market price, to wit:
'VADA charged a total of $16,000 to administer drug testing for the April 18, 2015, junior-welterweight fight between Ruslan Provodnikov and Lucas Matthysse. By contrast, USADA charged $36,000 to administer drug testing for the April 11, 2015, middleweight encounter between Andy Lee and Peter Quillin'
USADA's pricing is also not standardized, and is contingent upon the profiles of the fighters being tested. That is to say, the higher the profile fight, the more money they make testing the fighters involved.
So why would the UFC, a company that routinely underpays its fighters and is in hock for close to five billion dollars, partner up with the most expensive testing agency in the US?
Because they play ball, that's why. That, and the UFC want's to project the image of being a 'clean' sport. It's a PR play, mostly--as well as means of mitigating the damage caused by PED failures through pork barreling the company that administers testing. One hand washes the other. You just can't have a situation whereby an event that has been promoted to the tune of millions and millions of dollars, to say nothing of the time and energy investment, is cancelled due a PED or weight failure all the time. It wouldn't work. It would be financial suicide. The UFC is chummy with USADA to prevent that from happening as often as possible, and this is achieved through gladhanding.
Of course they need to nail someone to the wall occasionally to project the an image of legitimacy, and sometimes they do. But it's curious, don't you think, how often high value fighters aren't the ones getting nailed. Only when it becomes screamingly obvious, or the UFC has an interest in a PED-using fighter being out of the picture because they are a threat to a fighter who would be more marketable as a champion, does this seem to happen. Quite a coincidence.
It's better to have a good, solid wholesome family man like DC as champ rather than a blow-snorting, car-crashing, hooker smashing serial adulterer--wouldn't you say?
Hmmmm....
It's why Cormier was allowed to fight with his shonky towel trick. It's why Floyd Mayweather was given a pass to use an IV before the Pacquiao fight, and it's why USADA does not follow the protocols of Olympic testing in which fighters are randomly tested any time, anywhere.
Consider this from Victor Compte:
“Mayweather is not doing ‘Olympic-style testing,’” Conte states. “Olympic testing means that you can be tested twenty-four hours a day, 365 days a year. If USADA was serious about boxing becoming a clean sport, it would say, ‘We don’t do one-offs. If you sign up for USADA testing, we reserve the right to test you at any time 365-24-7.’ But that’s not what USADA does with Mayweather or any other fighter that I know of.”
“The benefits that an athlete retains from using anabolic steroids and certain other PEDs carry over for months,” Conte continues. “Anybody who knows anything about the way these drugs work knows that you don’t perform at your best when you’re actually on the drugs. You get maximum benefit after the use stops. I can’t tell you what Floyd Mayweather is and isn’t doing. What he could be doing is this. The fight is over. First, he uses these drugs for tissue repair. Then he can stay on them until he announces his next fight, at which time he’s the one who decides when the next round of testing starts. And by the time testing starts, the drugs have cleared his system.
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* Edited at 02.28.2018, 4:39 PM ET *
02.28.2018 | 5:47 PM ET
It's hillarious that Jones says, "you can call a lot of things, but never a cheat." Most of his striking defense is eye poking. He's trying to always have the fight at his range and to get his opponent to think twice before trying to close the distance. Eye poking is the easiest, but dirtiest path to that goal.
"I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture, and kill them."
02.28.2018 | 6:00 PM ET
I'm not trying to start an argument, but what you're doing is a logical fallacy; you are suggesting that someone prove a negative.
This is also referred to as Russel's Teapot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot
This is impossible, and you may not call upon anyone to do it. Whatever charge or contention is made, is posited or otherwise opined must be able to be qualified. And the burden of proof is always on the person positing anything to establish the reality of their claim.
For example:
Imagine if I said to you that there's a giant invisible bear that can sing the bohemian rhapsody living in my garage, and that only I can see/experience said bear, because it only makes itself known to me.
Obviously this would be an absurdity and you would consider me ridiculous. However, what if I just said to you 'Well, you can't prove that isn't true, so my contention that the bear exists is as valid as your contention that it doesn't exist'.
We'd never get off the merry-go-round, and all semblance of sanity, and the ability to know what is true, and what isn't, would be completely abolished.You would end up with situation where anybody could be prosecuted for anything based on 'negative potential'...it would be chaos.
It's something that people do a lot, and causes me considerable anxiety. As it did for the guy in my profile picture, Franz Kafka.
* Edited at 02.28.2018, 8:39 PM ET *