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UFC 215: Nunes vs. Shevchenko 2 Discussion Thread
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09.08.2017 | 12:13 PM ET
Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points | Tied for 347th
Prelims kick off at 7pm ET on UFC Fight Pass before switching to FS1 at 8pm. The PPV main card touches down at 10pm.
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"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
- Saturday 09.09.2017 at 10:00 PM ET
- U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
- Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
- Ownership: WME-IMG
- Venue: Rogers Place
- Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
- Enclosure: Octagon
- TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
- Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
- Post-Fight Interviews: Daniel Cormier, Joe Rogan
- Ticket Revenue (live gate): $2,028,307
- Attendance: 16,232
- PPV Buys / Buyrate: 100,000 | TV Ratings: 418,000 avg. viewers (FS1 prelims)
- MMA Bouts: 11
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| Bout | Info | |
|---|---|---|
| Amanda Nunes defeats Valentina Shevchenko via Decision, Split | 5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Rafael dos Anjos defeats Neil Magny via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke | 3:43 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Henry Cejudo defeats Wilson Reis via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:25 Round 2 of 3, 5:25 Total Bout Page | |
| Ilir Latifi defeats Tyson Pedro via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Jeremy Stephens defeats Gilbert Melendez via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Ketlen Vieira defeats Sara McMann via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke | 4:16 Round 2 of 3, 9:16 Total Bout Page | |
| Sarah Moras defeats Ashlee Evans-Smith via Submission, Armbar | 2:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Ricky Glenn defeats Gavin Tucker via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Alex White defeats Mitch Clarke via KO/TKO, Punches | 4:36 Round 2 of 3, 9:36 Total Bout Page | |
| Arjan Bhullar defeats Luis Henrique via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Kajan Johnson defeats Adriano Martins via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:49 Round 3 of 3, 10:49 Total Bout Page |
Responses Page 8
09.10.2017 | 12:52 AM ET
Predictions: 2 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points | Tied for 1201st
"Where are my shoes?"
09.10.2017 | 12:53 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points | Tied for 624th
09.10.2017 | 12:54 AM ET
Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 150 Points | Tied for 1042nd
That fight was beyond close. It was even going into R5, and those TDs sealed the fight. She has zero right to talk **** about a decision when she decided to actually "go for it" in two of the five rounds.
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
09.10.2017 | 12:54 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 450 Points | 21st Place
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09.10.2017 | 12:54 AM ET
Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 150 Points | Tied for 1042nd
Not a robbery, but the wrong decision, imo.
* Edited at 09.10.2017, 12:55 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
09.10.2017 | 1:00 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points | Tied for 624th
* Edited at 09.10.2017, 1:01 AM ET *
09.10.2017 | 1:05 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points | Tied for 790th
09.10.2017 | 1:05 AM ET
Predictions: 2 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points | Tied for 1201st
"Where are my shoes?"
09.10.2017 | 1:10 AM ET
Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 150 Points | Tied for 1042nd
I arguably see Shevchenko winning the last 4 rounds and doing it decisively with effective counter striking, which is constantly underscored in MMA unless it results in a knockdown. The oblique kicks Nunes were throwing to Shevchenko's lead leg were having little to no impact in impeding Shevchenko's movement and while Nunes was the "aggressor" (if by aggressor you mean stationary punching bag, because Nunes was a target that Shevchenko was lighting up all night), she wasn't landing anything with impact or power behind it. By Nunes trying to conserve energy, she became way too static in her movement and did not engage or land effectively enough for her forward pressure to be considered effective in my opinion.
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09.10.2017 | 1:21 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points | Tied for 624th
Dude, I don't even know why I'm defending Nunes this much. It was a close fight. I think Nunes did pretty poorly too for a champion. But it is what it is.
09.10.2017 | 2:33 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points | Tied for 347th
09.10.2017 | 2:37 AM ET
Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 150 Points | Tied for 1042nd
I agree with you, just felt that since the fight was so close, the girl that was winning from a technical standpoint, landing at a higher percentage, making the other miss more (at least from what I saw, didn't check the stats, I could be dead wrong about that) should've got the rounds.
That said, you need to lay down more of an exclamation point to take the belt off a champ. If it's close or 50/50, the belt usually stays put and rightfully so.
* Edited at 09.10.2017, 3:29 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
09.10.2017 | 3:01 PM ET
Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 240 Points | Tied for 597th
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09.10.2017 | 5:02 PM ET
Predictions: 2 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points | Tied for 1201st
This is just a random thought but I think all these cautious title fights are due in part to the pay discrepancy between champion and challenger pay. Nunes's chick said that the difference between Amanda having the belt and not is something like 1-2 million to 60,000 per year. That's a huge difference. May explain the 2nd Woodley/Thompson fight. That's why I appreciate a champion like Rda who went for it no matter what. He got caught by Eddie, but that's because he was looking for the finish in every situation.
Now I know that another huge factor is the skill level of the fighters that a champion faces. Usually the champion is facing a fighter who is on a major streak (both wonderboy and Maia were wrecking ww). So obviously that's a factor in why I didn't **** on either one of Tyron's wins.
I find myself enjoying the top contender matches more than the title fights recently. Whitaker vs Jacare and Romero are two fights where both guys were going for it throughout. Gaethje vs Johnson is another case where both guys were aiming towards a title shot.
These are just some random thoughts that no one wants to hear, but to hell with it the Steelers game is over now.
"Where are my shoes?"
09.11.2017 | 5:49 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points | Tied for 790th
There was only a 14 strike difference in favor of Nunes but Shevchenko clearly landed the better, cleaner shots. The biggest lesson for Valentina here is that she should've emptied the tank in that 5th round. I thought her gameplan was to be more loose in the later rounds but she never seemed to move out of 3rd gear. While I thought Valentina won, she likely cost herself the fight by not clearly winning those rounds, instead of slightly getting the better of her.
So who's next for Nunes? Only Holly Holm seems to make sense, unless she wants to fight Cyborg (doubtful).
09.11.2017 | 6:18 AM ET
Predictions: 2 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points | Tied for 1201st
If you look at the scorecards, Shevchenko lost the decision because 2 judges gave round 4 to Nunes.
If you go by the judges' scores, the majority gave rounds 1, 4-5 to Nunes and rounds 2-3 to Shevchenko.
09.11.2017 | 8:05 AM ET
Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 175 Points | Tied for 918th
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