Ben Henderson vs Clay Guida on FOX show

http://mmaweekly.com/ben-henderson-vs-clay-guida-agreed-to-face-off-at-ufc-on-fox-nov-12
well that's probably the best fight ever on a facebook broadcast

Unfortunately? Unfortunately?!

I'm going to have to hold myself back here, but let's just say I can't wait to see Guida face karma in the form of hundreds of knees to the face.

@Mino you dont have to hold back you wont hurt my feelings.haha. Ben is a good fighter I just dont care for his personality.

It's not as much hurt feelings as it is disgust (of his style)...and I kind of do have to hold back, haha. I wouldn't be a very good mod if I hated on any fighters, and I would hate on Guida. 

Not a fan of Benson's personality? Is it the religion or something else?

You can't really  blame a fighter for how they fight. What Guida is doing is working and I guess that is all that matters, but he'll lose to Bendo. I just see a whole wack of threads when I come on and have to skim through them all. Sexy news.

Alright Alright I guess mods cant be fighter bashing lol

Not so much the religion. That's his thing it doesnt bother me. Im not really sure what it is about him he bugs me for some reason.

"You can't really  blame a fighter for how they fight" I disagree with this. Guida has the tools to pass the guard and to ground and pound (and no, shoulder bumps do not count) but I believe with Greg Jackson in his corner and his (and most other Jackson's fighters') win no matter what mentality, he has boring fights. I respect Jon Fitch because he does pass the guard, and he does have technical dominance over his opponents. Guida vs Pettis was the opposite of that, where Guida didn't do anything from on top except get threatened, but won a decision simply for being on top.

I should stop there before things get out of hand, haha.

@loneronin, hmm. I couldn't pinpoint it for you (I like Bendo a lot) but I can understand that. I don't feel that way about Henderson but there are certain fighters that I just won't like for reasons that I don't even know.

Maybe I am the minority. But I believe the Pettis/Guida fight was exciting. While Guida was in full guard he was defending submissions from an under rated Pettis. Who is a wizard off his back. If it were to be any other fighter on full guard they would have been submitted. They were both being active and Guida was defending a lot...
His type of style is to be in full guard and work on trying to inflict damage, but I did see him try to pass during the Pettis fight. Maybe you over looked it. I don't get bored of fighters that easily unless they stayed in one spot and didn't move. There is always activity going on. It's easy to sit and spectate from afar but when you're trying to control someone's body and avoid submissions it becomes energy draining. You also have to worry about making the wrong move on the ground when you're such a dominate wrestler, and the person on their back is talented there. There's many things that play into the equation. That's why I don't nit pick at fighters unless they aren't doing anything. 
I also look at the judging criteria and don't blame fighters for fighting the way they do when they know it's so dominate. We've already went through all of this before with the scoring and judging and how wrestlers are dominating the sport. 
But that's the way I see it. 
Guida's energy and heart bring excitement. It's his style and fighters all fight differently. No fighter fights the exact same. So when you have Guida and Fitch the only fighters that most people call boring. It doesn't phase me because it's a nice mix.
I didn't see one complaint about Guida until the Pettis fight. Which is odd.

I just don't understand. Would you rather Guida lose position of dominance and stand it up? Where he's in danger. Why should he stand up or pass for everyone's entertainment if the ref isn't standing it up? I agree the ref's SHOULD stand up fights more periodically and not let some fighters just be so inactive in the guard, but when it's part of Octagon control I don't see it being a problem. That's just the way I see it.

I didn't find the Pettis fight too boring either, but just because of Pettis' offense off of his back. IMO Guida wasn't committed to passing or striking from on top, but he was just looking for control to win a decision. That is not a mindset a fighter should have and if you try to exploit rules to win decisions, I won't like you. I thought Pettis deserved that decision for offering every bit of offense in that whole fight, and if Guida offered any offense, rather than doing nothing but defending, he would have gotten submitted. Which I guess leads us back to your point that you can't blame them for how they fight. I guess this is true, but it's an f'd up system we have when the guy who is defending his limbs and neck for his life throughout the whole fight and offers nothing back is the guy who wins. 

I totally agree. I think Pettis was putting up more of a fight off his back...That's where it does get confusing. That's why I really REALLY hope they change some things. Getting sick of the judging and everything being so controversial. It gets annoying because I see both sides of the pendulum.

* Edited at 09.06.2011, 9:56 PM ET *

I believe control is a skill, especially against a fighter who's so good off of his back, but control should lead to other things (damage, passing, submission attempts). Those things should score points, not control. Come to think of it, if anything, Pettis had more octagon control in that fight. Yes he was on his back, but he had Guida in his guard the whole time, where he dished out attack after attack and received nothing in return.

Dirty fight to have on fox along side the Dos/Cain fight. This will be an action paced fight, that goes the distance unless someone pulls off the guillotine choke off a sloppy takedown. This fight is so hard to call, I haven't seen the odds yet, if they're even out, but I'd think they're gonna been VERY close, -115,-105. I'm leaning with Henderson though, man's on a mission...hopefully with a win, they give him a Pettis rematch!

The UFC is really making it happen lately.

this will no doubt be an amzing fight!

bendo is gonna win via sub though!

My first impression is Bendo via SUB as well.  Clay won't be able to "clay" bendo on the ground.  I want to see Bendo get a finish here and make a statement...

i have to agree Kalibo... if Bendo doesn't get the sub i think he will outpoint Guida.

i'll either be going with Henderson/Sub or possibly decision ... i love Clay but don't see him finishing Bendo or grinding out a decision here.

all the pressure on guida for this fight..the closest hes really came to gettin a shot at the 155 title he losses hes way down the latter, for smooth he looks much better then he did with his fight with petttis and he was already aswesome now hes on fire i got smooth on this fight but im cool with any outcome.

i like guida to win the fight

i like bendo to grind out a UD.

im not sure, but is the fox show gonna be like a regular pay-per-view fight, or show 1-2 fights?? because i heard that they're only broadcasting 1 fight.