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11.22.2016 | 10:31 AM ET
"“And tell Dana I said get off Conor’s nuts”....(Nate Diaz) "
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11.22.2016 | 12:39 PM ET
Muslims shouldn't be scared of insults, it's just a natural consequence of society. I can't speak for others so I'll speak for myself and say that while I would fear for my safety, I would go anyway because my values (which are a product of both my faith and life experience) are stronger than any emotional or physical harm that can be done to me.
I'm a Muslim by choice, and I choose to accept the good with the bad. I hope that people wouldn't attack me for my faith, but I can't control the decisions of others; I can only control my own. People should have the right and freedom to say and do whatever they want, but that freedom should never infringe on the freedom of others.
Also, the only thing the UFC should be concerned with is the bad press from the inevitable riot that would occur after watching Khabib destroy their little **** boy.
* Edited at 11.22.2016, 12:41 PM ET *
"الله أكبرl"
11.22.2016 | 1:07 PM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
11.22.2016 | 9:09 PM ET
* Edited at 11.22.2016, 11:00 PM ET *
"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
11.23.2016 | 4:50 AM ET
Well this escalated quiclky. You guys are not even talking about the original topic/question.
@Anik "Muslims shouldn't be scared of insults, it's just a natural consequence of society" ***
@WastelandWanderer "I know many Muslims from Ireland to parts in UK they chase girls and get wacked on drugs" *** are those stereotypes you are throwing.
@StreamFan68 I am not sure the UFC really considers this issue. As you say it well "UFC has done a magnificent job so far in not engaging in any political or religous debate through its productions". Even on the social media, i never saw any comment related to religion in all the topics about Conor and Khabib potential fight so i don't think the UFC have to worry about that. I am not sure of what you are expecting? A big brawl in the arena between christians and muslims?
In my opinion UFC is just searching for some money fight + Conor is having a baby so it's normal to let him rest a bit (he fought 3 times in 10 months it's a good ratio no?). I have no problem with the fact he's not fighting for the moment. They can go for shot between fergusson and Khabib and the winner win a title shot.
In the FW division, i see no one for the moment who will be able to deal with Conor (even if Aldo deserves a rematch).
A rematch with Nate sounds good for the fans and for the money tho
* Edited at 11.23.2016, 5:02 AM ET *
11.23.2016 | 1:31 PM ET
@AlexSpanBjj
* Edited at 11.23.2016, 1:33 PM ET *
"“And tell Dana I said get off Conor’s nuts”....(Nate Diaz) "
11.23.2016 | 1:38 PM ET
"I wanted to meet interesting and stimulating people of an ancient culture, and kill them."
11.23.2016 | 1:55 PM ET
@unbeknownst
Many of these guys are also Muslim. so its going to get very interesting...
"“And tell Dana I said get off Conor’s nuts”....(Nate Diaz) "
11.23.2016 | 6:07 PM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
11.23.2016 | 7:39 PM ET
@ Anik. There are close to 3000 muslims in Anchorage Alaska. There are no problems up here. Most people don't realize how diverse Anchorage is. There are the Native people who are all over the state. There are Russian Orthodox places of worship all over the Kenai Peninsula too. Where i live there is literally no crime. Everyone has guns galore. Even Law enforcement does not care if we shot dead (still standing)trees, boom boxes, wine bottles etc, etc down here. There is more freedom here then anywhere i have been.
* Edited at 11.23.2016, 7:56 PM ET *
11.23.2016 | 10:16 PM ET
I think that is a testement to people of Alaska but I am not sure how that corilates with this topic really... Partly because where you have fights your gonna have drinking.. and just the overall social issue of acceptance.. I am not saying Khabib is gonna be doing any Death To AMerica stunts...far from it , hes an extremely classy guy... But like lets consider that really I do believe he has a shortened fight season right? Due to his faith, isnt there a 3 month cycle where he isnt suppose to participate? I could be wrong...But lets say he wins championship..of course he will begin to impose some aspects of his beliefs...all fighters do it.. But most fans have similar beliefs realistically ... I just think that it could get volatile... but again.. They have managed so far to be control oustide forces in the past... I am hoping they continue... I really fear that as far as the fight game is concerned, that AMerican folowers are not or refuse to be accepting of it on a grand scale... I thought I heard the crowd start giving him louder responses at times this last time in the match afterwards..and when he said "Allu Akhbar"..they seemed to get even louder... That is sorta what brought me to asking this question from the start!!..
"“And tell Dana I said get off Conor’s nuts”....(Nate Diaz) "
11.24.2016 | 12:30 AM ET
@wolfmanhowl If what you say is true, Anchorage sounds like a great place. I think you might be idealizing things just a tad bit though.
"الله أكبرl"
11.24.2016 | 3:06 AM ET
Everywhere Islam is or goes it's been an oppressive, barbaric force and on the whole Muslims don't assimilate well with much of the western countries they invade nor do they assimilate well to our values for the most part. Which is a big reason Trump got elected, no more refugees.
I think Khabib is the best in the world, but I would boo any ******* like him that shouts Allahu Akbar after a fight and starts preaching Islam at us, because **** that religion and it's disease ridden ideas. Jihad and Martyrdom are paramount in the Islamic doctrines (and in practice) and it's not coincidence that 98% of terrorism today is from Muslims.
* Edited at 11.24.2016, 3:19 AM ET *
11.24.2016 | 8:32 AM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
11.24.2016 | 8:35 AM ET
Guys this no more about the original question. If you want to have a real interessant social debate on religion, i am not sure this is the good place to do so.
@mikeyg Every single brazilian (and not only brazilians) refers to god after a win so what about them? Religion just don't have it's place in sport. If you want to thanks God for a fight it's fine but no more.
11.24.2016 | 8:29 PM ET
@AlexSpanBjj, How many of these Christians commit acts of terror? Pretty much only from Africa. How many of them kill in the name of religion or condone the violence? Seems to be only one religion left on Earth piling up bodies on mass in almost every country they go to in the name of their ******** god. Outside of Africa, once Christians start making women second class again, killing gays, bombing buildings, cutting off ****orises of girls and overall just keeping their country in the dark ages, let me know...
* Edited at 11.24.2016, 8:31 PM ET *
11.24.2016 | 8:33 PM ET
"*** are those stereotypes you are throwing."
It's not a ******* stereotype, that's so regressive of you. The fact of the matter is, wherever Muslims go, the **** rate (and crime overall) goes up). With your attitude I'm sure you think the mass **** epidemic of Europe is just a coincidence since the refugee crisis?..or a hoax? Hmmm
* Edited at 11.24.2016, 8:47 PM ET *
11.25.2016 | 3:25 AM ET
@mikeyg I think you mix up everything here. I just responded to your comment :
"I think Khabib is the best in the world, but I would boo any ******* like him that shouts Allahu Akbar after a fight and starts preaching Islam at us"
by saying that a lot of fighters thanks god after a fight (including brazilians and ppl from all over the world). That being said, i agree with you on the point that religion have nothing to do with sport even if i think it's not dramatic if they just thanks god in their post fight interview.
And now, you are saying : "How many of these Christians commit acts of terror?" "Wherever Muslims go, the **** rate (and crime overall) goes up" BUT NO, you are right, this are not stereotypes ;)
You are really out of scope here. There is nothing to do about our original debate. BTW i think you need to go back in your history books and stop being omnibulate by the media. Sorry for being rude here but you can ask the African continent about the benefits of colonization to "spread Christianity" (more about primary ressources and money than anything else). These ppl are "******" because of the action of Europe and the USA. And blame the refugee's issue in Europe to all the ******* wars "we" go for in the name of "Democracy" that started during G. W. Bush. presidency. I can continue with examples for a long time if you want so.
Violence is made by men, nothing else.
Peace.
11.25.2016 | 6:40 AM ET
11.25.2016 | 8:51 AM ET
"by saying that a lot of fighters thanks god after a fight (including brazilians and ppl from all over the world)."
Khabib wasn't just thanking his ******** god, you completely missed the point, and to conflate Modern day Christianity with Modern day Islam is just obtuse and sheltered from the world.
"That being said, i agree with you on the point that religion have nothing to do with sport even if i think it's not dramatic if they just thanks god in their post fight interview."
If you think shouting Allahu Akbar and lecturing the audience about Islam is the same as most fighters just mentioning god one time, then you've got you're priorities all messed up. Unless it's Vitor giving a lecture on Christianity, none of them really preach about Christianity. Khabib took it too far and he should know screaming Allahu Akbar in America and chastising the audience etc. would not be a smart move. When he said that I knew his title shot was lost.
* Edited at 11.25.2016, 10:57 AM ET *
11.25.2016 | 9:23 AM ET
@mikeyg pls take all the sentence when you quote what i said. I reacted to : "Muslims shouldn't be scared of insults, it's just a natural consequence of society". I don't agree with the fact it's a natural consequence of society, it doesn't means that i am against derision/satyre of ppl or of a religion (I am living in Belgium so don't worry i know very well the implications of all that issue..)
Sure there are stats, but stat is a tool that can be used in many differents way and so, have to be taken with caution (Even the Nazis used some stats and claimed scientific legitimacy to legitimate their actions and policies..). Don't be a sheep.
Concerning Khabib, i have to rewatch his post fight interview because i don't remember everything he said. Btw Allahu Akbar means "God is [the] greatest", and i am not defending Khabib. Khabib was the original topic of this post but you guys started to talk on some generalities.