Topic: UFC Discussion
New UFC weight classes?
Anonymous Mode
You are not logged in to Tapology. When browsing anonymously, profanities and images are automatically removed from the forum.
08.13.2015 | 4:01 PM ET
Personally I think 195 division could be usefull and I would get rid of 170 and make a 165 and a 175 divisions, because its crazy that Lombard and Sanchez are in the same division, or Woodley and Nate Diaz. I think that with the IV Ban these two divisions could be better and fairer for fighters, and we would get to watch more competitive fights.
what do you think?
"he is going to the hospital, and im going to the after party, ha ha ha" Nate Diaz
Responses
08.13.2015 | 4:28 PM ET
"I think Gayffy suits you better, because you are gay." - Nomad
08.13.2015 | 4:48 PM ET
Something like that anyways, but no 230lb division...boxing has a cruiserweight division and it's at 195lbs...the Klitchkos were only 245...so They could cut to 230lbs if that were cruiserweight..there is no above 230lb talent to make a Brock Lesnar division, people just imagine it because they are ******* diots.
So yeah, it would take some tinkering and science but I think all could be adjusted properly.
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
08.13.2015 | 5:04 PM ET
Diego used to carry a lot of muscle mass, look at TUF 1 he was much bigger then than when he fought Penn, and he was much bigger when he fought Penn than he is now. I personally think his history of body change heavily points to PEDs. Lombard is a blown up 5'8 steroid monster who gasses in 2 minutes, Diego was never a big welterweight but his number 1 attribute was always his cardio so it was probably smart for him not to be. Anyways Diego is moving down to Featherweight and Lombard is a Welterweight.
Lastly, your examples sucked.
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
08.13.2015 | 5:07 PM ET
Men's:
Super Heavyweight - 265
Heavyweight - 240
Cruiserweight - 205
Light Heavyweight - 195
Middleweight - 185
Welterweight - 170
Lightweight - 155
Featherweight - 145
Bantamweight - 135
Flyweight - 125
Women's:
Bantamweight - 135
Flyweight - 125
Strawweight - 115
"..."
08.13.2015 | 5:17 PM ET
Super heavyweight is necessary when all the best heavyweights in boxing and MMA can comfortably make 230 lbs? No it's an awful idea. 230,205,195 and 185....that's just so ******* stupid. Please look past my brashness and rationally think this one through.
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
08.13.2015 | 6:03 PM ET
The light heavy & heavyweight belts used to be the most prominent titles, the champs of these divisions would often be the faces of the UFC (Liddell, Ortiz, Jones, Couture, Lesnar, Velasquez) but over the past couple of years they've faded... As much as Cormier & Werdum are world class fighters they are hardly what's pushin' the UFC needle atm, so to dilute the prestige of these heavier divisions even further at present is just bat-**** crazy on a marketing level.
On the other hand a 230 guy can fight a 265 but if a 135 fought a 155 it would be considered ridiculous so I can see his point but to me it's just not possible anytime soon.
So imho, on a competitive level it makes good sense, but on a marketing level it's ridiculous.... And I think it''s obvious which of the above two the UFC would rather follow
"When you can't see the angles no more, you're in trouble"
08.13.2015 | 6:12 PM ET
Heavyweight - 225
Cruiserweight - 205
Light Heavyweight - 190
Middleweight - 175
Welterweight - 165
Lightweight - 155
Featherweight - 145
Bantamweight - 135
Flyweight - 125
Strawweight - 115
Atomweight - 105
08.13.2015 | 7:00 PM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
08.14.2015 | 2:40 AM ET
@nomad just because Lombard roids himself and/or Diego used to doesn't mean there isn't a huge difference between them weight/size wise I know Diego is moving down but most of his career he fought at 170 I stand by my example. Nate is tall but scrawny kind of like Cerrone thats why he always get ragdolled at 170 but he is too big for 155 that was my point.
I don't like the idea of LHW and HW being one division maybe they could move the 205 to 210 but not more I don't believe half the HW division could fight at 205, I think you are way off
"he is going to the hospital, and im going to the after party, ha ha ha" Nate Diaz
08.14.2015 | 3:07 AM ET
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
08.14.2015 | 3:26 AM ET
Heavyweight, 220+
Light Heavyweight, 220
Middleweight, 190
Welterweight, 175
Lightweight, 160
Featherweight, 145
Bantamweight, 135
Flyweight, 125
Restructure the Women's Divisions
Featherweight, 140
Bantamweight, 130
Flyweight, 120
Strawweight, 110
* Edited at 08.14.2015, 3:50 AM ET *
08.14.2015 | 9:45 AM ET
No need for a super heavyweight division in the higher levels, if that means missing out on Bigfoot Silva (because I believe he's the only one of them that can't make 230 easily if he maintains a proper elite athlete's way of life) then so be it. If Daniel Cormier's making 205, Mark Hunt and Roy Nelson can make 230. the only reason they don't now is because they love eating and have enough power and talent to do just enough to keep their jobs in a shallow division.
Other than that I wouldn't change a lot. Too many divisions is one of the things that is killing boxing. It may not be as bad as boxing because the only "real" belt is the UFC belt, so you won't have 30 "champions" hanging around between 140lbs and 175lbs who will never fight each other, but it'll still take the sting out of being a champion.
Flyweight to lightweight shouldn't change, they do a good job of splitting up the lighter weightclasses nicely.
How you split up the heavier weight classes is a bit more tricky.
I'd probably end up with this:
230 lbs - Heavyweight
195 lbs - Light Heavyweight
180 lbs - Middleweight
165 lbs - Welterweight
155 lbs - Lightweight
145 lbs - Featherweight
135 lbs - Bantamweight
125 lbs - Flyweight
Fatties are out, at least until the real big-men athletes start trending into MMA over American football, basketball, etc or all the Eastern heavyweight true 265lbs and BUILT wrestlers and judokas start trending into MMA, one or the other (then you just add on a solid super heavyweight division if you get another million PPV draw like Brock or something). As of now, not enough true 265ers out the to justify a division. Sorry Jared Rosholt (who I believe can also make 230, by the way, but does anyone really care?).
* Edited at 08.14.2015, 9:46 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
08.14.2015 | 11:52 AM ET
"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
08.14.2015 | 2:00 PM ET
Boxing got it right, after about 190-200lbs you just have to accept these 220+ sized men when in shape are either too muscular to function athletically or too roided up to pass tests or can't sustain themselves for more than a few minutes before gassing. There's very few heavyweights and there's no reason to believe a 270lb Overeem is superior to a 205lb Cormier, there's no reason to believe Bilyal Makhov is a better Olympic wrestler at the heavyweight division than a 220lb Kurt Angle. I just don't get it.
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
08.14.2015 | 2:20 PM ET
"When Conor fought Cowboy, he looked like a lion. When he fights stronger opponents, he looks like a scared chicken." - Khabib
08.14.2015 | 2:27 PM ET
"here I come to save the day"
08.14.2015 | 3:20 PM ET
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
08.14.2015 | 6:24 PM ET
attention dana white
"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "