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dreamtect
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07.19.2015 | 12:32 PM ET

http://lastwordonsports.com/2015/07/18/jose-aldo-a-tarnished-legacy/


Definitely seems to be making all the wrong moves, now he's saying he will ignore the IV ban

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skelliher
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07.19.2015 | 12:38 PM ET

I kind think the IV ban comments are funny. I'm actually completely torn on where I fall in that debate. I don't consider IV's and saline a PED, but I understand the argument against them. 

As for dodging the drug test in Brazil, or sorta dodging it, he's been at the top of my list of suspected steroid abusers for years. He's a brilliant fighter, but I think he's had some help from the needle. 

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07.19.2015 | 1:07 PM ET

Just curious, what makes Aldo seem like a juicer?

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07.19.2015 | 1:10 PM ET

Aldo's legacy is being sabotaged by Dana more than anything. Dana is so enamored with McGregor that he's been burying Aldo on live TV all because of an injury. To make it worse Dana is calling Aldo a liar and saying his ribs aren't broken, claiming multiple doctors reported it not being broken yet there's no evidence from him, just his word which means **** all.

As for the drug test, Aldo's team had every right to report the tester for not going through proper procedure. I wouldn't trust my career in the hands of some guy that can't identify himself either. Other than that I will never understand fans infatuation with who is and isn't using PEDs, too many of them are just into MMA for drama, it's not about the fights anymore.

TL;DR, **** Dana and fans.


"Just curious, what makes Aldo seem like a juicer?"
He thinks everyone is on the juice except GSP and Rory for whatever reason.

* Edited at 07.19.2015, 1:11 PM ET *

"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"

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07.19.2015 | 1:33 PM ET

you don't understand why people care about who is and is not on PEDs? jesus christ

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07.19.2015 | 2:33 PM ET

No I don't, give me a good reason why I, as a fan, should care. I understand why the athletes themselves care but I don't get why fans care so much. This goes for every sport.

* Edited at 07.19.2015, 2:34 PM ET *

"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"

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07.19.2015 | 3:32 PM ET

There are a multitude of reasons as to why a fan may care, whether you care or not is a different matter. No one cares what you think.

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07.19.2015 | 3:36 PM ET

Nomad is right. While we're at it let's delete the forum.

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07.19.2015 | 3:54 PM ET

Wait, I want to pick Legz now. He's the new Inspektor Voss. 

"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."

Live2wrestle
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07.19.2015 | 4:29 PM ET

Please list these multitude of reasons in alphabetically descending order. Also you cared enough to reply =)

"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"

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07.19.2015 | 4:34 PM ET

Ill start

Reason #69: Maybe they have a Nickle Allergy and the needle will make them all bumpy and itchy.

Ill let someone else handle 1-68

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07.19.2015 | 4:39 PM ET

Are you asking because you yourself genuinely cannot think of a rational reason a fan may be bothered with fighters taking PEDs?

Or are you just trying to have a battle of wits with the Nomad?

Either way, you are stupid and lose. 

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07.19.2015 | 5:01 PM ET

If a fighter chests, then the fan would have an interest on who is doing that.

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07.19.2015 | 5:17 PM ET

What if the fans don't care about PEDs? Break that one down for me Quadros.

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07.19.2015 | 5:41 PM ET

Still waiting on any reasons, rational or irrational



"If a fighter chests, then the fan would have an interest on who is doing that."

I agree, we have the right to know if a fighter chests. The people want barrel chests not Telligman chest. I want everyone's bench press numbers on the Tale of the Tape.

* Edited at 07.19.2015, 5:42 PM ET *

"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"

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07.19.2015 | 6:11 PM ET



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07.19.2015 | 6:20 PM ET

Let's just see what he looks like in December compared to past fights. 

The Brazilian regional scene is the most roided in a sport riddled with PEDs. Aldo carries a ton of muscle for a guy with his frame, so he's never looked natural to me. And that whole testing situation was completely ridiculous; it was a circus. 

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07.19.2015 | 6:24 PM ET

You have proof skelliher or you just talking out your ass again because I have some inside info that Mongolia roids far more.

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07.19.2015 | 6:42 PM ET

You guys seem to think I'm making some big controversial statement by saying Brazil regional MMA has a PED problem. 

MMA in general has a PED problem, I just think Brazil's is bad. I'm sure Mongolia and China is as well. 

http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/2/6/7992097/brazilian-mma-promoters-are-trying-to-clean-up-the-sport-but-still

Solid insight into the regional scene, and I've spent years (not recently) training in gyms. Brazilians, in my experience, have less of a problem with PEDs in general. My old BJJ instructor used to use them, which I was sorta shocked to learn, and said they're not really considered an issue there. 

Take it or leave it. That's what I think. Doesn't bother me that people disagree, but go right ahead and keep thinking guys like Jacare and Aldo are clean when Anderson Silva wasn't.

http://fightland.vice.com/blog/jose-aldo-defends-anderson-silvas-ped-usage

Aldo literally said he has no issue with Anderson Silva using PEDs because he's not in his prime anymore. He's made countless statements along the same lines. He does not consider it cheating. But yeah, I'm sure that's just what he thinks about everyone else; he has no problem with others using roids, but he never would...

That whole Aldo testing situation in June was a circus. It has now been confirmed that Aldo and his management confirmed the agent as a representative of the NAC, and still felt the need to call the authorities. Anyways, just, like, my opinion, bro. Not sure why it upsets people. 

He also is saying this week that he plans to ignore USADA rules on IV bans ... not PEDs, as I said above, but commonly used to mask blood doping.

I have no prove he uses, but I think he uses. If you don't, that's fine by me. Maybe history will prove one of us correct. 

* Edited at 07.19.2015, 6:49 PM ET *

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07.19.2015 | 6:50 PM ET

I actually was training at Wai Kru a few days ago and John Howard told me that the amateur kickboxing scene in Boston is one of the most steroid abusive scenes in the entire word. Everyone says that it's obvious John Howard knows about steroids so I took his word. We started talking about Tapology and he said some interesting things about it.

The Boston police department talks about it's corruption and links to fighting gyms:

http://thebostonmarathonbombings.weebly.com/police-corruption-drug-gangs-steroids-and-fighting-gyms-who-really-had-a-motive-to-kill-the-waltham-three-part-2.html

So how's that wicked Boston Diet going?


* Edited at 07.19.2015, 6:50 PM ET *

skelliher
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07.19.2015 | 6:51 PM ET

Ya I know a good amount about Howard ... let's just say you can trust what he says about PEDs. He's well-versed in them.

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