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02.21.2015 | 11:02 PM ET

Seeing  how Wrestling is one of the most popular bases in MMA, i thought that it would be goof if i started a thread that  would allow for people to understand and follow the storylines and techniques at the highest level collegiate and international level competition.  I will create a Ranking system and give scouting reports of the top 10 guys at each weight class and provide updated weekly rankings every Monday. The first event i'm covering is NWCA National dual finals between Iowa and Missouri. 

* Edited at 02.22.2015, 12:29 AM ET *

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11.28.2015 | 7:04 PM ET



"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "

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11.28.2015 | 7:44 PM ET

Wrestling World Cup results.

Finals: Bimeh-Razi 7, Titan Mercury WC 1
57kg Vladimir Khinchigashvili (B-R) dec. Tony Ramos (TMWC), 4-1(Ramos is getting better keeping it closer with World Champs but this whole story of him being top 10 in the world is silly.)
61kg Benham Ensanpour (B-R) dec. Daniel Dennis (TMWC), 5-1(Ehsanpour is 2012 Junior world champ top 5 throughout the year beat Haji Aliyev at the world cup, but lsot to Shuptar at worlds this year and DNP'd. Daniel Dennis is most known for leading Jayson Ness in last 15 seconds of 2010 NCAA's then Ness hits him with a duck to his back to come up clutch and win his national title as a senior. 
65kg Masoud Esmailpour (B-R) dec. Morteza Ghiyasi (TMWC), 5-1(Esmailpour was the 2014 world runner-up to Haji Aliyev
70kg Magomedrasul Gazimagomedov (B-R) tf. Dustin Schlatter (TMWC), 11-0(no shame in losing to Gazimagomedov who proved he's truly on another level at worlds.
74kg Andrew Howe (TMWC) dec. Alireza Ghasemi (B-R), 7-2(Howe beat Ghasemi who placed fifth this year at worlds and who has wins over Purevjav Unurbat(world runner-up this year to Burroughs) and 2014 World runner-up Sosuke Takatani.
86kg Meysam Joukar (B-R) dec. Goleij Mojtaba (TMWC), 3-2(Jouakr is a 2013 University World champ, Mojitaba teched everybody at Junior worlds this year.)
97kg Reza Yazdani (B-R) tf. Jake Varner (TMWC), 10-0(If Yazdani can stay healthy he is 100% a threat to win a world title. 2011 and 2013 world champ. Varner is a bit over rated by U.S. fans on his ability to beat top guys when in reality his best win is Valerii Andriitsev. 
125kg Komeil Ghasemi (B-R) dec. Bobby Telford (TMWC), 3-1(Telford is looking good so far at heavy. IDK how he looks against Dlagnev, Rey, Gwaizdowski, or Bradley but pretty sure he can beat at least one of them.)

Semifinals: Titan Mercury WC 6, Armenia 2
57kg Tony Ramos (TMWC) fall Garnik Mnatsakanyan (Armenia), 3:11
61kg Daniel Dennis (TMWC) dec. Behrozi Bezad (Armenia), 8-2
65kg Valodya Frangulyan (Armenia) dec. Morteza Ghiyasi (TMWC), 8-6(Frangulyan finished fifth at European games this year and beat Bekkhan Goigereev at the Medved this year as well.
70kg Dustin Schlatter (TMWC) ff.
74kg Andrew Howe (TMWC) dec. Valruzhan Kajoyan (Armenia), 5-2
86kg Mostafa Ghiasi (Armenia) dec. Austin Trotman (TMWC), 3-1
97kg Jake Varner (TMWC) dec. Edgar Yenokyan (Armenia), 6-2
125kg Bobby Telford (TMWC) tf Andranik Galstyan (Armenia), 12-2

TITAN MERCURY 7, AZERBAIJAN 1(Azerbaijan back up squad, I have no idea who most of them are)
57kg Tony Ramos (TMWC) dec. Afhgan Khasalov (Azerbaijan), 6-4
61kg Ali Rahimzadeh (Azerbaijan) dec. Daniel Dennis (TMWC), 5-3
65kg Morteza Ghiyasi (TMWC) dec. Panah Ilyasli (Azerbaijan), 3-1
70kg Dustin Schlatter (TMWC) tf. Ali Qurbanov (Azerbaijan), 10-0
74kg Andrew Howe (TMWC) tf. Kanan Aliyev (Azerbaijan), 10-0
86kg Austin Trotman (TMWC) dec. Magomed Abdulkhalikov (Azerbaijan), 2-1
97kg Jake Varner (TMWC) tf. Magomedrasul Qazimagomedov (Azerbaijan), 10-0
125kg Bobby Telford (TMWC) dq. Qamzatkhan Israpilov (Azerbaijan)

TITAN MERCURY 8, BRAZIL 0(Brazil got ****** up, Don't know if any of there guys do MMA as well. wouldn't doubt it though. 
57kg Tony Ramos (TMWC) tf. Junior Uziel Correa (Brazil), 10-0
61kg Daniel Dennis (TMWC) inj. Yosef Kamrani (Brazil), 5:45
65kg Morteza Ghiyasi (TMWC) tf. Juliano Carvalho (Brazil), 10-0
70kg Dustin Schlatter (TMWC) tf. Douglas Vieira (Brazil), 10-0
74kg Andrew Howe (TMWC) ff
86kg Austin Trotman (TMWC) tf. Pedro Rocha (Brazil), 12-0
97kg Jake Varner (TMWC) tf. Paulo Victor Souza (Brazil), 10-0
125kg Bobby Telford (TMWC) dec. Reza Hadi (Brazil), 2-0
WastelandWanderer
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11.28.2015 | 8:12 PM ET



"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "

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11.28.2015 | 8:39 PM ET

Thanks for coming through with the live stream. Been really looking forward to Mcghee/Peters all week.
WastelandWanderer
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11.29.2015 | 9:40 AM ET

No problem man the iowa crowds  are the best  wrestling fans !! Really great people , you know if there's any streams for the grapple at the garden today ?

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11.29.2015 | 9:45 AM ET

The collegiate style is actually really great the way there is no breaks between rounds an the whole emphasis on ground techniques like the riding positions are actually really beneficial for endurance,  and the way the refs step bback and don't interfere with quick call etc,  just let the match flow , man i love this ****!

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WastelandWanderer
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11.29.2015 | 9:46 AM ET



"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "

WastelandWanderer
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11.29.2015 | 9:49 AM ET

In the iowa duel there you can hear the commentators talk about rule changes, will probably never happen but if they allow even leg locks or arm submissions (forget about vhokes) back into collegiate style before it was watered down, man itthink it would be beneficial 

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12.04.2015 | 9:38 AM ET



"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "

WastelandWanderer
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12.04.2015 | 9:39 AM ET



"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "

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12.04.2015 | 11:34 AM ET

They allowed arm and leg locks in Collegiate wrestling before?

"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."

WastelandWanderer
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12.04.2015 | 1:21 PM ET

@rappinpapsoda if you watch the above catch wrestling podcast they go into it, in the old days, "rules" were often decided on the day/spot, there were all holds including chokes, going into modern  times chokes were the first to be cut out, then other holds, then your left with what we have today, watered down versions of wrestling which are still beautiful powerful arts, but me being me I would still like at least 1 hold to be legal ... arm locks leg locks .. will never happen now though

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12.04.2015 | 5:37 PM ET



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12.04.2015 | 5:38 PM ET



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12.04.2015 | 6:25 PM ET

If Collegiate had submission holds today, I bet you would have a lot less of the multiple NCAA winners.

I remember watching a video(forget what it was) and it talked about Frank Gotch and Georg Hankenschmidt. I am not sure if they fought each other but one of them was in a match in front of a whole stadium and one got caught in a toehold and would not tap and they got their shin or ankle snapped.  That stuff seemed raw.

* Edited at 12.04.2015, 6:27 PM ET *

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12.04.2015 | 8:45 PM ET



"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "

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12.04.2015 | 10:43 PM ET

@wastelandwanderer I'm happy you've taken interest in the thread but usually I just run it for results on freestyle and greco. If you feel so inclined you can go set up a catch wrestling thread or something but the main concern here is that of freestyle and college rankings and discussion. 
nogfan
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12.04.2015 | 10:45 PM ET

Personally I much rather prefer Freestyle to folkstyle as it puts a greater emphasis on action and higher scoring technique. 
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12.05.2015 | 9:29 AM ET



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12.05.2015 | 11:28 AM ET



"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my Glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "

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