Topic: Anderson Silva

Anderson Silva Fails Pre-Fight Drug Test for Anabolic Steroids

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02.03.2015 | 9:01 PM ET

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So, can we just give GSP the GOAT moniker now? I mean, come on now. 

Oh, and Diaz failed a post-fight test for weed, which is irrelevant. 

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Anderson "The Spider" Silva

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  • Given Name: Anderson da Silva
  • Pro MMA Record: 34-11-0, 1 NC (Win-Loss-Draw)
  • Nickname: The Spider
  • Current Streak: 3 Losses
  • Age: 1975-04-14 | Date of Birth: 1975.04.14
  • Last Fight: October 31, 2020 in UFC
  • Weight Class: Middleweight | Last Weigh-In: 184.0 lbs
  • Affiliation: N/A
  • Height: 6'2" (188cm) | Reach: 77.5" (197cm)
  • Career Disclosed Earnings: $4,857,000 USD
  • Born: Sao Paulo, Sao Paulo, Brazil
  • Fighting out of: Curitiba, Parana, Brazil
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  • Foundation Style: Muay Thai
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02.18.2015 | 12:09 AM ET

That´s the million dollar question isn´t it? His normal-looking physique throughout his career, and the extenuating circumstances of his leg break i.e. what it would take to recover from it, lead me to believe that it was only for this fight.

* Edited at 02.18.2015, 12:10 AM ET *

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02.18.2015 | 3:25 AM ET

well, I agree with slamdistraction.
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02.18.2015 | 6:58 AM ET

He may have been doing it in his Pride days but we will never know. It was not illegal in Pride.

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02.18.2015 | 1:13 PM ET

@Ben

except then what explains the box of hgh needles found years before he failed his drug test  on his shelf in his house that Rogan talks about in the video posted?







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02.18.2015 | 3:02 PM ET

What part of your utterance was a question?

edit: That's better. Could you link me to the video please? I have not seen it. 

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02.18.2015 | 4:00 PM ET

I am a little surprised you missed the video since it was posted  just a few posts before your own and p4p even commented on the video and what was found in it like three posts before your own post..........either way here the video

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02.18.2015 | 5:33 PM ET

I guess i should have read the whole thread. Sorry about that. 

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02.18.2015 | 5:58 PM ET

No worries dude, understandable mistake.



My question to the thread or anyone who can answer is how long has Joe Rogan known about this video in which you can see HGH needles in Anderson Silva shelf?  Also which access video is Rogan talking about? I have done a little research, but have not been able to figure out either. 

* Edited at 02.18.2015, 6:05 PM ET *

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02.18.2015 | 8:29 PM ET

Over Anderson's shoulder @ 5:41.  White, purple & blue box, number six on it.



I'm not a Dr., but when people cite this video, that box is what they are referring to.  

**The video is from Jan 2011.  

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http://www.berktree.com/assets/images/default/novo-nordisk-pharmaceutical-novofine-insulin-pen-needle-32-gauge-6-mm-pkg-of-100-model-169185189.jpg


http://www.sterilesyringes.com/images/products/needles_pink_18g.jpg


http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fep.yimg.com%2Fay%2Fyhst-4043893163530%2Fbd-ultra-fine-insulin-syringes-31g-1cc-5-16-in-90-ea-7.gif&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.otcwholesale.com%2Fbd-28289.html&docid=Wz5QyfPD7CMVFM&tbnid=4k7AbNG6KrPYKM%3A&w=400&h=303&ei=hT3lVPfKFcKsyASAk4LYAw&ved=undefined&iact=c


Could be for insulin if he has any diabetics living with him.  The box is simply for sterile needles, but the implication is there.  

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02.18.2015 | 8:36 PM ET




I'm sure there's a perfectly reasonable explanation concerning why he has ultra fine, medical injection needles. 

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02.18.2015 | 8:37 PM ET

@Skelli is quicker on the google images than I.  

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02.18.2015 | 10:01 PM ET

Ask and you shall receive.


Thanks guys, that was better then I was hoping for to be honest, much appreciated.

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02.18.2015 | 11:14 PM ET

and he's never made a statement providing an explanation for the needles? I mean, he must know that this is a thing

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02.18.2015 | 11:39 PM ET

Why would he know?  I'm sure he has better things to do than read about rumors on MMA forums.

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02.18.2015 | 11:41 PM ET

Maybe he's diabetic...maybe one of his kids is diabetic maybe his wife/gf is(don't know his relationship status) or maybe he was just using insulin as an anabolic like other athletes have 

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02.18.2015 | 11:42 PM ET

@buffalo I'm sure they weren't his. He was just holding onto them for a friend.....







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02.20.2015 | 11:09 PM ET

Silva put this statement on his instagram:

"IN RESPECT TO MY FANS

I will not say anything about who I am or what I went through to get here.
What matters to me now is the respect from those who have followed my career.
I bled, struggled and fought because I love it and because I always wanted to honor the flag of the country I love so much.
I don't know what to apologize for, because I am still waiting for the results and analysis from the specialists that are working to reveal the truth.
Everything that I took since my injury are being analyzed. I look for the truth as much as all those who were surprised with the results. I always played clean, I was never a cheater.
In eighteen years of my career, I never had a problem with exams.
In and out of the Octagon I never slipped in compliance with the principles that always guided me. With much honor and dignity I defended my country where ever I fought.
I never used any substances to better my performance in my fights.
I love what I do and I would never risk what I took so long to build.
I think that the hurry some people have to condemn me is unfair.
The time it takes to destroy a reputation is infinitely less than that is taken to build it.
I am the one who is most eager to settle this situation.
I want those who have always supported me to know that I am still fighting for all the sad happenings of this situation to be cleared."


This is the worst part of the whole situation. I guess he thinks his fans are stupid.

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06.27.2015 | 8:08 AM ET

Time to bump this I guess, weird **** emerging.

This article on MMAMania.com says that Anderson peed twice with two minutes between them, each sample sent to a different lab, one says he pissed hot (the one that was sent to NSAC) while the other doesn't.

Why has this fact, that NSAC knew about(!!!) never been released to the public? Nobody asked. Nobody. *******. Asked.

First of all, let's give credit where credit due, Anderson pissing a testable amount twice in two minutes is pretty rad. He's GOAT pisser too.

Secondly, very interested to see what's really going on here and what happens to Anderson. Not really sure what this means yet or if it even means anything to be honest. I feel like the article's missing so much information this could actually mean nothing except a last hail mary by Anderson trying to save himself.

And last but not least, whether this thing has merit or if it's just another tiny piece of info that was blown up in the super-professional MMA media before being totally understood what exactly it means, the fact remains that the last thing that MMA needs now that punishments have been ramped up to career-ending levels is any kind of testing controversy or any doubt in the validity of the testing procedures.

The silver lining is that these are different bodies that are doing the testing for the UFC now and are supposedly less incompitent than NSAC (are they though? The Jose Aldo thing might suggest otherwise).

I don't know what to say, I do think however that if you're going to crack down on abusers you better make damn sure your testing methods and procedures are ironclad and if not, hold your horses with the 3 year bans.

The fact is, that this is science. If you're spending enough money and following the procedure to the T, there should be zero mistakes. The guys that are getting a lot of money to do this **** need to understand the consequences of their actions. People's lives, careers, sometimes their only way to get out of crime-infested surroundings and normalize life for the rest of their bloodline. So dot your I's and cross your T's, double-check everything and if you ****** up, don't try to dust it under the carpet. Come out and say "we ****** up", "it's inconclusive" or "we're not sure in this case" and worse case scenario is another PED abuser flies under the radar, nothing we haven't see before (*cough* Vitor *cough*). Missing one that did isn't as bad as punishing one that didn't.

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06.27.2015 | 8:51 AM ET

First of all, let's give credit where credit due, Anderson pissing a testable amount twice in two minutes is pretty rad. He's GOAT pisser too.



It doesn't require that much urine for a drug test. I'm somewhat semi pseudo educated when it comes to drug testing because my father does it for a living at a pain clinic. I know, it sounds *****core compared to UFC, but it's actually elaborate as ****. The machine he uses to analyze pisssssss is gangster as ****. If you took a small piece of something and it's still in your system when you pissed it's getting found and identified specifically for what it is. It's not a "Yep, we got ya for opiates." it's "Yeah, we got you for x amount of (enter specific drug here)" If my father is able to do that for regular patients at a pain clinic I've got no idea why it's not able to be done reliably by whoever the **** the UFC or NSAC is paying to test piss. Also, the amount of elderly people on meth and coke is alarming. Fun fact.
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06.27.2015 | 9:26 AM ET

Just harassed him about it some and apparently the mass spectrometer he uses would be able to nail down exactly what was in their system, but it's extremely costly...Like $1200 per sample costly.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/mass-spectrometry.htm

Basically if the samples taken from fighters were analyzed using a machine like this there would no longer be doubts about what was in their systems.

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