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Gustafsson vs. Johnson

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Oddsbot
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11.10.2014 | 7:19 PM ET

This is the official discussion thread for Gustafsson vs. Johnson. Let's see what you've got.

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skelliher
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11.10.2014 | 7:19 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 3  

Heavily rumored for the main event on January 24 via Helwani. Would be yet another incredible event for January 2015.

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11.10.2014 | 7:23 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 4  

Johnson is a bad stylistic matchup for Jones, even worse than Gus. But Gus is a horrible matchup for Rumble... 
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11.10.2014 | 7:46 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

Johnson is Glover without jiu jitsu IMO.
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11.10.2014 | 8:16 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

Johnson is Glover without the ability to get a tan.

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11.10.2014 | 8:23 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

Much downvotes, not one explanation for the thought process behind them. Basically just means I'm right and other people are sad that Rumble isn't the second coming like they'd hoped.
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11.10.2014 | 8:27 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

BUT BUT BUT RUMBLE STUFFED ALL OF PHIL'S TAKEDOWNS AND PHIL TOOK GLOVER DOWN AT WILL. 


That's nice, stop comparing them based on MMA math and tell me what Rumble brings to a fight with Jon Jones that Glover didn't bring.
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11.10.2014 | 8:40 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

People who think Glover Teixeira's wrestling is bad or even lesser than what they thought it was prior to the Phil Davis fight really did not watch the same fight that I did.

What I saw was Glover Teixeira's takedown defense being stellar but Phil Davis' pure strength just wearing down on Glover. Davis didn't have the opportunity to ride Rumble the same way because Rumble is just as freakishly strong.

But no, Rumble brings absolutely nothing to a fight against Jon Jones. I don't understand where all of this style ******** came out of, because Rumble is not that special.

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11.10.2014 | 8:41 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 3  

It's true though. Downvoting on a thread where you ain't even said anything, is weak as ****. Cthulhu had to make up what he thought your punk asses were thinking just to argue with yous.

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11.10.2014 | 9:19 PM ET

"It's true though. Downvoting on a thread where you ain't even said anything, is weak as ****."

That is the one thing I don't like about his site. Disagree with me all you want, at least tell me your view.


@CT I didn't down vote you but I strongly disagree with you (I only down vote stupid comments, not things I disagree with). I said for a long time that Glover is vastly overrated. He throws some mean hooks and sometimes they even connect, Johnson is a much different striker. Not saying he is better or worse by he is more explosive, faster, more athletic and throws many different strikes. He is also the better wrestler. With that said he is absolutely not as good a grappler as Glover and if Jones takes him down he'll likely submit him. I really haven't given Jones vs Johnson too much thought, but he is a very different fighter than Glover.

With all that said I think Gus is obviously the worse (worser?) match-up for Jones and is a terrible match up for AJ. Johnson is too wild to beat Gus IMO. As long as Gus minds his Ps and Qs he should be able to pick AJ apart.

* Edited at 11.10.2014, 9:19 PM ET *

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11.10.2014 | 9:38 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

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11.10.2014 | 10:12 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

Rumble brings one hitter quittter KO power other than that nothing special

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11.10.2014 | 11:18 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

I agree with everything said above this. Including my posts. I really am curious to hear why some others think Rumble is a bad match up for Jones, or Gus for that matter. He has crazy power and has looked like a world beater since moving to 205, but are we seriously pretending that Jon Jones is not head and shoulders above the competition Rumble has faced since his move to LHW? I really dislike Jones and the idea of seeing him get knocked out is very very appealing, I just don't see Rumble being well rounded enough to cause any issues for him. Gus shouldn't have any problem with him either I don't think. If Rumble and Jones fight it will be after Gus beats Rumble and DC beats Jones. IMO.

* Edited at 11.10.2014, 11:19 PM ET *

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11.10.2014 | 11:57 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

Rumble can be different from Glover without having anything for Jones though, can't he? You already mentioned that Davis couldn't take Rumble down. I don't think they're exactly similar fighters, Rumble is stronger and probably has more sheer punching power but doesn't have the submission game, as far as anyone knows. Don't see how Rumble is a bad matchup for Jones though. Rumble doesn't have the same height or reach as Gus and I feel like Jones's various stuff like teeps, knee kicks, and that thing he did to Glover's arm would frustrate Rumble and break him down eventually.

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11.12.2014 | 11:07 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Submission   wrong Round 2  

Gus has 3 wins by RNC and Johnson has 3 Losses by RNC .  after this Gus will have 4 RNC wins ..

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11.12.2014 | 1:23 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

It's a very tough fight for me to call, but I am gonna go with Rumble here. The precision he used to shut down Phil Davis impressed me.

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11.12.2014 | 1:38 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong Decision  

@foley, this is a totally different fight ... once he managed to stuff Phil's TD's and they were stuck standing, Phil's striking is so bad he could use that precision ... with Gus, that's exactly where he wants the fight, he's faster, rangier and actually has a striking game (as opposed to Phil).

Not saying Rumble can't win, just saying, nothing about the Phil fight says anything about this one.

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11.12.2014 | 2:58 PM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 3  

We also can't underestimate the role travel will play in this one. This is in Stockholm, a full six-hour time difference from Rumble's training grounds. He's going to have to travel, cut weight and acclimatize. Gustafsson's timing will be on point, but Rumble could be off. 

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11.12.2014 | 3:05 PM ET

Prediction: correct Johnson   correct KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Gus and Rumble are the people's champs

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11.13.2014 | 5:23 AM ET

difficult to call but.....

Prediction: correct Johnson   correct KO/TKO   correct Round 1  

Rumble's only chance for me is if he catches Gustaffson with a punch. Other than that, he won't be able to beat The Mauler
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01.06.2015 | 10:46 AM ET

Prediction: wrong Gustafsson   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 5  

speed kills 


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