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I think number of correct winners should always win over just more accurate predictions.

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kwic
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10.05.2014 | 5:00 AM ET

In my opinion correct predictions (like which round and how the fight is going to end) should only count when people have the same amount of correct fighters' picks.
So if there are 200 guys who have 25/34 picks correct, then the points from correctly picking which round etc. should count. But when I see a guy 23 or 24/34 in his predictions and he is ahead of me when I'm 27/34 seems unfair to me.
Picking correct winners should always count for more.

That's just my take on it.

* Edited at 10.05.2014, 5:01 AM ET *

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Ronwah
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10.05.2014 | 5:07 AM ET

Sounds like quantity over quality to me.

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10.05.2014 | 5:16 AM ET

Yup, but I think in this case it's the right thing, no matter how it sounds.
Winners are more important than the way the fight ended.
Again, at least in my opinion.


* Edited at 10.05.2014, 5:25 AM ET *

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10.05.2014 | 5:22 AM ET

I can see where you are coming from to a degree.
However I think over the piece this site holds pick % over event wins and perfects if it's any consolation.

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10.05.2014 | 5:26 AM ET


Just btw. I edited it in my last post but since you replied sooner I will copy it to THIS post ;) 
"Can you imagine if there was a guy who would pick all UFC 2014 contest correctly and he was not awarded a win for his brilliance? If he was the only one to pick all fighters correctly?
He could be 500/500 and lose to a guy who is 450/500, that's insane to me.
I cannot imagine a situation like that and I disagree with anyone to beat a guy like that just because he lucked out to get a correct round prediciton. I think knowing who the better fighter is is way more important."

Ok ;)
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10.05.2014 | 5:33 AM ET

Yeah, but at the same time it's not easy to predict the correct method and round, hence why it's rewarded. But not so much to the point where it see people penalised for picking all the winners.
No system is perfect but I think Tapology has it just about right.

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10.05.2014 | 5:57 AM ET

I agree that it's not easy. I will say it's too difficult even, sometimes impossible, so you just have to guess, whereas when picking a fighter you show that you know who is better. You cannot really be sure of which round and how it will end so it's a guessing game. But when you pick the winner, you know he is a better fighter and that's what should prevail over a guessing game. I think for the perfect pick you get 100 points right? For the winner you only get 50. So a guy who is 2-0 equals the guy who is 1-1 but happened to guess round and method.
Shouldn't be equal.

THis website is awesome, but I'm kind of disappointed in this. I love the point system and that you get points for correct round etc., but it should only count when people have the same amount of correct winners.

I guess we can call it end of our discussion because you just have your opinion and I have mine :)

* Edited at 10.05.2014, 6:00 AM ET *

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10.05.2014 | 6:46 AM ET



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10.05.2014 | 7:25 AM ET

Picking the winner often takes more luck than picking the method.  See any Diego Sanchez Split Decision and SD's in general.

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10.05.2014 | 7:37 AM ET

I think the system's cool as it is ... people who know their **** well enough to pick round and method correctly should be rewarded as such.

With blind guessing you've got 50% chance of getting the winner right (maybe a bit less if you count the draw/no contest possibility, but close enough to make my point), so you get 50% of that pick's potential score. Sounds pretty much fool-proof to me.

If someone got less pick right but managed to pick method and rounds accurately enough to get more points, he theoretically is a better picker, because he also "knows how the fight's going to play out" not just who's going to win. He knows what the winner's good at, what his tendencies are, how tough and resilient the loser is, etc ... that is a perfectly normal added-value to just being able to pick the winner.

EDIT:: This coming from a dude who's constantly missing out on round and methods. I SUCK at getting semis and perfects.

* Edited at 10.05.2014, 7:38 AM ET *

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10.05.2014 | 10:03 AM ET

The accuracy of finish and method is what sets it apart. 

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10.05.2014 | 11:35 AM ET

Yeah I like the way it is because it doesn't reward just playing the statistics. Without picking round and method, like yoss said, you've got a 50% shot. Combine this with the tap % for either guy and pick the favorite, you'll almost always hit over 50%, without ever thinking about how the fight might go. Adding in round and method encourages analysis of two skillsets opposing each other, which is what I like. Of course, I also don't pick for that many fights, but I spend a lot of time thinking about all the picks I make. I don't really agree with just picking based on the stats, it just feels flat to me and doesn't really represent how mma actually works as a sport on a meta-level.

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10.05.2014 | 11:51 AM ET

"I think number of correct winners should always win over just more accurate predictions."

Perhapse you should stick to your strengths and leave thinking out of this.

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10.05.2014 | 12:07 PM ET

I fell like underdogs should be worth more points if you pick them but I'm not complaining the system now is just fine

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10.05.2014 | 12:09 PM ET

Okay, so three guys pick the same winner. Its even now. But two of the guys picked the correct finish, and only one of them picked the right round.  So to me, the guy that picked the fighter, method and round gets what he deserves. The most points 
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10.05.2014 | 12:43 PM ET

This, IMO, is what sets fantasy mma apart from a simple "pick em"

I feel it would be easier to run down favorites and/or get lucky on a few 50/50's than to insightfully break down the fight and lay out how you think it's gonna go down.

It requires more thought.

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10.05.2014 | 1:14 PM ET

Scoring by number of correct picks would have 243 ties for 1st place.  

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10.05.2014 | 1:28 PM ET

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10.05.2014 | 1:28 PM ET

lol! @ben's post is pretty much the nail in the coffin :)

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10.05.2014 | 2:40 PM ET

As everyone has already stated, the idea your suggesting is not a good one, but I see what you mean. However despite the fact it just will not work well the way you are suggesting, do you understand how much coding that would take to make the changes you are suggesting? That not some easy change, they likely have to re code much of there stuff. That just not practical or worth there time.

* Edited at 10.05.2014, 2:42 PM ET *

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10.05.2014 | 3:31 PM ET

For the most part, I think its a good system. There have been cards where I went 8 for 8 with no perfects and lost to someone going 5 for 8 with 5 perfects. 

Those are a little demoralizing, but 95% of the time, that doesn't happen. If you look at the leaderboards, most of the time the winner picked the most right. Like if you look at last nights UFC, almost everyone in the top 20 got 10 or 11 out of 12 right.


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