Topic: Ben Askren
Ben Askren must join the UFC. Really, what the hell.
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05.30.2014 | 1:16 PM ET
I mean, he is by far the best fighter not in the UFC right now. For Dana to refuse to sign him was the dumbest move ever.
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"Let's just say if we fought again I wouldn't need to keep my hands up." - Luke Rockhold on Michael Bisping's punching power
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05.30.2014 | 1:39 PM ET
"To win without risk is to triumph without glory"
05.30.2014 | 2:56 PM ET
05.30.2014 | 2:58 PM ET
Askren beats Brown & Lawler.
Beats Ellenburger
Loses to Lombard (maybe)
Loses to Hendricks
Beats GSP
That puts him at an unproven #5.
Beating Brock Larson or whoever the hell One FC has simply shaves valuable fights off a limited career.
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05.30.2014 | 2:59 PM ET
"30-26 Tim Boetsch"
05.30.2014 | 3:07 PM ET
"To win without risk is to triumph without glory"
05.30.2014 | 3:15 PM ET
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05.30.2014 | 3:17 PM ET
I don't find Askren boring at all. His chain wrestling is pretty incredible to watch and even tho it looks like he's in slow motions sometimes he still can't be stopped. I don't blame Ben Askren for all of his fights being boring, but rather the ****** competition he's fought so far. I mean Koreshkov or whatever the **** his name is basically became a heavy bag after round 1 for him to beat on.
It's not Ben's fault nobody can stop his wrestling and no one could get him off their back or out of mount. He's clearly improving and i think we'll see him in the UFC within 18 months.
05.30.2014 | 3:32 PM ET
Lawler 2.0 would beat Askren.
That said, the fact that the opinions in this thread are actual relevant discussion is by itself proof that he belongs under the UFC banner. I just hope if he does get to the UFC and start boring the **** out of people they don't suddenly turn their spots (remember how hated Fitch was until he got cut? Then suddenly everybody's a ******* fan and "if you don't like Fitch's style go watch boxing, blah blah blah"). All you "Askren doesn't bore me people", that's great, he doesn't bore me either, but just remember how less active you get, the higher up the ladder you go and hold that tune when Ben starts controlling fighters rather than dominating them (which he eventually will). Don't be hipster ***** who like him just because he's a UFC outcast.
Oh, and have I said Lawler beats Askren already?
* Edited at 05.30.2014, 3:35 PM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
05.30.2014 | 3:38 PM ET
"To win without risk is to triumph without glory"
05.30.2014 | 3:52 PM ET
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"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"
05.30.2014 | 4:04 PM ET
"It's 30 minutes away i'll be there in 10."
05.30.2014 | 4:10 PM ET
Also, like you said, Robbie has been taken down, and he got up, against a guy who's arguably better at it than Askren (the only time he didn't was deep into the 5th round and it looked as though if he had more time he would).
I also concurred that Askren's style is different so this doesn't prove a lot. I just think that Lawler specifically might be the guy with the best style to finish Askren besides Hendricks and was just a bit weirded out about how so many here count out Robbie completely (yet give Lombard a chance).
That said, I agree that my opinion might be a tad fanboyish, but since Askren's the one who hasn't been tested at the highest levels yet, while Robbie's been in there with at least a couple of the best wrestlers MMA has to offer, one might argue my opinion gets the proverbial nod ;)
As of now, most of what's said about Ben is theory and potential while Robbie's actually got more groundwork relevant to the discussion.
* Edited at 05.30.2014, 4:27 PM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
05.30.2014 | 5:37 PM ET
05.30.2014 | 6:42 PM ET
When was the last time Tiger Woods scored a boring birdie?
The concept of a "boring fighter" should be dropped. MMA can't be a sport if this kind of thing is even discussed.
"Let's just say if we fought again I wouldn't need to keep my hands up." - Luke Rockhold on Michael Bisping's punching power
05.30.2014 | 7:11 PM ET
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05.30.2014 | 7:57 PM ET
05.30.2014 | 9:07 PM ET
05.30.2014 | 9:35 PM ET
"he is going to the hospital, and im going to the after party, ha ha ha" Nate Diaz
05.31.2014 | 1:16 AM ET
Dana not bringing Askren to the UFC is just stupid and kind of immature. You can't tell Askren no yet hold onto all these random dudes off of TUF.
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05.31.2014 | 1:23 AM ET
I believe that he'd end up making a few good runs but losing to top guys. So many guys have looked like world beaters outside of the UFC and then they are big let downs once they get there. The level of competition out there just isn't the same.
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