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Leandro "Feijao" Souza died today cutting weight for shooto 43

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09.26.2013 | 8:46 PM ET

"Everyone has a gameplan 'till they get punched in the face" - Mike Tyson

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09.26.2013 | 8:57 PM ET

Damn sad news . never heard of him but  you don't wanna hear that about anybody even your most hated fighter .

R.I.P Souza

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09.26.2013 | 9:49 PM ET

to some degree i expected something like this would happen eventually, theres just nothing healthy about purposely draining ur body of fluids...i wouldn't be suprised if there are serious ramifications, thats the way the world works today...it usually over reacts. i could easily see this changing how weigh ins are handled. if not from this time, for sure the next time...and unfortunately there will be a next time

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09.26.2013 | 9:56 PM ET

Awful. 

Extreme weight cutting is obviously not healthy.  But we don't know how much this guy cut, and maybe he had another condition that was a bigger contributor to what happened. 

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09.26.2013 | 10:03 PM ET


very possible....but it would be an unbelievable coincidence

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09.26.2013 | 10:16 PM ET

Not really... maybe he had a heart condition.  There are high school basketball and football players every year who pass out and die during practice.  Heat stroke, heart defect, who knows.

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09.26.2013 | 10:34 PM ET

I just got word of this. Absolutely tragic. Hopefully no more deaths come as a result of these circumstances. May he rest in peace.

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09.27.2013 | 3:38 AM ET

This is really sad ****! 

I don't know if it's related or there was some other reason (heart problem comes to mind in these cases too), but I hope fighters stop cutting so much weight to gain "advantages" during their fights (which are usually minimal due to speed loss and cardio issues from cutting a lot of weight) and stick closer to their natural weights.

If everyone fought closer to their natural weight, fighters wouldn't be forced to cut against their will just to not be facing giants at a weight class that's supposed to be "natural" for them. 

I think there should be stricter rules, as in a specific number, where no matter if your body can take it or not, you're not allowed to cut. I think that 20lbs should be the limit (and even that's stretching it in my book). 

I have no idea how to enforce such a rule, but now that the sport's picking up and there aren't the in-between weight classes (which I hate), I think a fighter dying is enough reason to put their minds together and come up with something.

R.I.P. Leandro Feijão

* Edited at 09.27.2013, 5:15 AM ET *

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09.27.2013 | 7:51 AM ET

Tragic news, you just don't know all of the circumstances.  Cutting weight often goes hand in hand with increasing your fitness levels to be fight ready, which normally takes some weight off of you, but weighing in the day or in some cases days before your fight encourages fighters to try and fight in weight categories below their natural one; and try to put some of it back on quick after the weigh in to gain an advantage in the fight.

I have always cut about 4 or 5kg over the space of 6 to 8 weeks before the fight, but apart from cutting out fatty foods and beer, this comes off naturally, and as I have always had to weigh in on the morning of the fight there has been no chance of trying to be anything other than fit, on weight and ready to fight.

His coach should also have been monitoring his preparation, and only allow their fighters to compete in the right categories, which also makes me think that something else may have contributed to this sad event.

RIP Feijao

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09.27.2013 | 10:56 AM ET


This is terrible and i wish it would affect other fights, but it probably won't. Until someone popular slips up and dies from cutting weight it will remain a non issue. The difference between a 5-5 fighter like Souza and Gleison Tibau is money and the experts they can hire to assist them.

I hate to say that i hope there was something else wrong with him, but regardless it's tragic and the timing looks horrible for MMA. That said, every sport has these types of casualties every year and it always makes headlines, even if it was a high school athlete. Bottom line is any one of us could go to sleep and not wake up, or fall over dead walking in the mall tomorrow..... Godspeed to he and his family.

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09.27.2013 | 11:13 AM ET

Shoot Brazil 43 was cancelled today in respect to Leandro Feijão.
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09.28.2013 | 12:09 AM ET

Apparently he cut roughly 33 pounds in a week and 11 in the final 24 hours, for someone his size that is ******* ludicrous. Sad situation and wouldnt wish this on anyone but cmon guys you gotta be smart about **** and take care of yourself.

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09.28.2013 | 12:11 AM ET

In many cases, death as a result of, is a catalyst for change.

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09.28.2013 | 12:53 AM ET

Marcelo Guimarães is one of those who's already taking this incident into consideration. He said that this made him rethink his extreme weight cut to fight as a WW in the UFC. He faced some serious health problems in his last two fights because of that. He stated today that no money is worth the risk and he will only fight as a MW now (weightclass he used to fight in Jungle Fight).

His description of his weight cut is pretty damn extreme too: "...three weeks before the weigh-ins I reach 86kg and 3% of body fat. By then I start to feel a little weak, it starts to get harder to get up and I feel dizzy. When I travel [to the city where the event in taking place] I'm around 84kg and I can't think straight, I need someone with me all the time to help me, as it really gets to my mind. When I reach 82kg, I can't train anymore, my head feels lighter, I can't sleep and I just want to eat everything in front of me. In the last day before the weigh-ins, I hit the sauna to lose 5kg, I feel pain all over my body, in my chest, my heart, I can't breath properly and everything seems to be in slow motion"

http://globoesporte.globo.com/es/noticia/2013/09/morte-de-lutador-faz-magrao-subir-de-categoria-no-ufc-nao-vale-pena.html

* Edited at 09.28.2013, 12:56 AM ET *

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09.28.2013 | 6:12 PM ET

So, apparently Souza was taking Lasix...


Source



This sticks out like a sore thumb to me. From the article: "He got the fight on short notice and had to lose 33 pounds in one week."

Uh, no wonder his body wasn't down with that. There needs to be something done about giving someone a fight in a weight class they're 33 pounds overweight to fight at and expecting them to make weight in one week. That's unacceptable.

* Edited at 09.28.2013, 6:15 PM ET *

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09.28.2013 | 6:27 PM ET

there should be a maximum weight you can cut. They should weigh them during the contract signing and not allow them to cut more than 20-25 lbs for a fight . so guys like Rumble who walk around at 220 cant try and make 185 or even 170 . If you want to fight at 170 then you need to keep your body around 190 incase you get called on short notice otherwise too bad.

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09.28.2013 | 6:32 PM ET

I like that idea a lot even though it's difficult to make a blanket rule like that when everyones body is different. There are guys like Kenny Florian in the world who can start out fighting at 185 and make his way down to 145 and still look fine.
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09.28.2013 | 6:42 PM ET

High school wrestling has a thing where they measure body fat and then figure out about what you would weigh at with 6% body fat and that is the lowest you can go. You also have to make the weight by a certain time otherwise you are barred from that weight class. It's not perfect by any means but it's one of the more plausible systems. Just better off not having restrictions and hope people aren't ****tards imo

* Edited at 09.28.2013, 6:42 PM ET *

"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"

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09.28.2013 | 7:21 PM ET

Sucks.

I hope other fighters begin taking notes of this and stop with the extreme weight cutting.

How much does Gleison Tibau usually weigh? He seems like a huge lightweight and it looks like he cuts a good amount of weight from his usual walk around weight to make 155 lbs.

Both Tibau and Massaranduba need to take notes of this and stop with the extreme weight cutting to make 155 lbs.
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09.28.2013 | 8:02 PM ET

Chill out with the weight cutting condemnation, playboi was popping diuretics. So he basically knew he was cutting way too much and did it anyways
http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/9/28/4780878/leandro-souza-took-diuretic-pills-before-shooto-weigh-ins
 

* Edited at 09.28.2013, 8:04 PM ET *

"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"

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09.29.2013 | 1:14 AM ET

Ahaha, we both missed each other's post in this thread. I brought up him cutting 33 pounds in a week after you did and you relinked the link I posted. Well played goddammit.
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