Topic: Quinton Jackson
Rampage wants to ban everything he can't do and/or defend from MMA :)))
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01.23.2013 | 8:37 AM ET
He has a problem with Jon Jones' oblique kick ("it could injure a fighter and keep him out for a year" - unlike a Kimura for instance *cough* Big Nog *cough*) and spinning elbows:
http://www.espn.co.uk/ufc/sport/story/189564.html
We all know that according to him, wrestling isn't a legitimate part of the sport and now apparently his "spies" (***?!?) caught a whiff of the notion that Glover Teixeira might ... *deep breath* ... take him down!!!
http://www.mmamania.com/2013/1/22/3906022/spies-like-us-rampage-jackson-glover-teixeira-camp-wrestling-ufc-fx-6-gameplan
I think fighters should submit their gameplan to Rampage ahead of fighting him (preferably it should consist of standing and banging with him and eventually getting KTFO'd by him) and forfeit the fight AND purse if they deviate from submitted gameplan at any point in the fight. If they, god forbid, go for a takedown, one of their balls should be cut off as punishment.
That's the only way he might stop crying.
Dude! There's a whole "new" sport where people aren't allowed take you down, kick, elbow knee or any other **** you can't be assed to train in, you might have heard of it ... it's called boxing. Go box or train in other MMA aspects, just stop *****ing and whining all the time!! (By the way, if he did move to boxing he'd find out just how big the difference between MMA level boxing and professional boxers is. He'd get knocked out by anyone who's not a Kimbo-worthy opponent).
Having said that, I'll always love Rampage, he cracks me up :)
* Edited at 01.23.2013, 8:37 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
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01.23.2013 | 8:44 AM ET
"UFC 151 NEVER FORGET"
01.23.2013 | 8:47 AM ET
"Albert Fish... I mean that guy was a real jerk!"
01.23.2013 | 8:50 AM ET
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
01.23.2013 | 9:05 AM ET
01.23.2013 | 9:09 AM ET
"الله أكبرl"
01.23.2013 | 9:10 AM ET
"I was born as a catholic but the nuns turned me. I was born as a pacifist but the guns turned me. I was born to be a beautiful man, but the ugliness is powerful, I do what I can."
01.23.2013 | 9:10 AM ET
and yes Jones kick does land above the knee.
01.23.2013 | 9:12 AM ET
That said a perfect timed uppercut to the nose could **** your brain up. A suplex on the head could **** your spine up and those are legal as well.
MMA is a dangerous sport to begin with if you don't wanna get hurt don't do it.
" I feel like Davy Crockett on the walls of the Alamo, swinging Old Betsy as the enemy swarmed in with bayonets. Sheesh. Listen you young punks....." - Bill Burgess
01.23.2013 | 9:26 AM ET
"الله أكبرl"
01.23.2013 | 9:46 AM ET
MMA is a dangerous sport to begin with if you don't wanna get hurt don't do it."
@diele you are wise, very wise
@Rampage ******* cry baby, like if a ******* neck crank or guillotine wasn't dangerous.
* Edited at 01.23.2013, 9:48 AM ET *
"he is going to the hospital, and im going to the after party, ha ha ha" Nate Diaz
01.23.2013 | 10:08 AM ET
There is a reason only guys with very good stand up throw them. Anderson Silva did it a couple of times, Condit does it but never really lands, Vera has some great kicks all around. And Jones does it as well, he uses it more as a jab to keep distance and it gives the opponent something to think about though.
I have never seen a brawler or someone with sloppy stand up who throws these kicks.
It might be effort-less like you said but it's still harder to do than it looks like I assume...
" I feel like Davy Crockett on the walls of the Alamo, swinging Old Betsy as the enemy swarmed in with bayonets. Sheesh. Listen you young punks....." - Bill Burgess
01.23.2013 | 10:17 AM ET
This is a sport where you bend limbs and joints, punch, knee and elbow faces you can't start drawing the "which is more dangerous" line without wrecking the sport.
If you really think about it, Rampage's slam on Arona had potential to cause more damage than any oblique kick (due to the fact that he slammed him on the back of his head ... hard. He could have easily ****** up his brain stem). So do we ban slams?
A cracked rib could potentially puncture a lung, so do we ban body kicks?
Nate Diaz got punched in the eyeball by Bendo, potentially could cause him to be blind in that eye, so no more punching to the face?
Those injuries are the risks a fighter takes when he picks MMA as a career.
I think Rampage is just having a hard time accepting the sport moving forward without taking him with it. He's in limbo between the sport evolving and him not wanting to (or not able to) put in the work to evolve with it.
Being a great striker and only that just doesn't cut it anymore, especially as Rampage isn't that great striker anymore, he's a step slower than he was and that makes all the difference.
* Edited at 01.23.2013, 10:22 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
01.23.2013 | 11:13 AM ET
I think the difference there @yossgold is that those injuries are accidental, while Oblique kicks are and have a really high chance of damaging a person really bad, it is a very sneaky move, it shouldn't be banned but refs need to watch for it and i remember a fight in strikeforce where the one guy threw an oblique kick and the other guy fell clinching his knee and got TKO'ed that is te situation we should look for and that should have something done about it.
* Edited at 01.23.2013, 11:13 AM ET *
01.23.2013 | 12:04 PM ET
01.23.2013 | 1:05 PM ET
Isn't that what most shots are supposed to do? Didn't Rashad Evans throw a punch vs. Liddell and end the fight? Hendricks/Kampmann?
Same thing goes for cuts, if a fighter managed to get his opponent down and cut him with an elbow, he's won the fight.
If I fought a UFC fighter would I be able to get close enough to cut him with an elbow? No. That means there's also an amount of talent needed to do that. It's part of the game.
As far as I'm concerned it's the same as a KO or a submission. Pat Barry has a KO via leg kicks, so if he was stopped via oblique kick how would that be different? I agree that in some circumstances an oblique kick could blow your knee out. But so can almost every non-choke submission do to it's respective limb or any other strike to wherever is hit. Heck, fighters have been blowing ACL sparring wrestling. Things that stop fights and are potentially injuring are 90% of the sport. It's called fighting, not tickling until they tap from laughing so much. Fighting hurts.
* Edited at 01.23.2013, 1:05 PM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
01.23.2013 | 1:12 PM ET
Rampage isn't worthy to be fighting in the UFC with his current mindset anyway, good riddance.
01.23.2013 | 1:14 PM ET
As long as the twister is allowed in MMA the oblique kick is safe.
01.23.2013 | 1:21 PM ET
01.23.2013 | 1:22 PM ET
01.23.2013 | 1:25 PM ET
So complains the fighter that is taking TRT, which can't help a fighter harm his opponent at all. Rampage is so full of it, I am embarrassed to have ever been a fan! Seriously, how do you take steroids (however legal) and then talk smack about someone who beat you despite your legal steroids and say that a potentially harmful move (in fighting, weird, huh?) shows the type of person he is?! Rampage tries to talk like he's just keeping it real, but he is is full of it.