Tapology Talks Boxing

I am surprised that no one has started this thread yet.

I know this is an MMA website but I bet that there are some Boxing Fans out there.

I just love the sport of fighting in general and I have been raised by boxing.

So in this Thread we can discuss the "Sweet Science"

such as
Past Fights
Upcoming Events
Favorite Fighters
and Historical Figures in the Sport


Because like MMA in the US, Boxing started out illegal. But where it took MMA less than 25 years to gain the General populations approval, It took boxing over 100 years.

Discuss and have fun.

Hatton used to do more lines than Vegas.

Pretty sure that is Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. on the left, but I can't place the guy on the right.

Chavez Sr. is on the right actually.
who is on the left?

Wait WHAT?!?!! When was that pic taken? Because this was at JCC Jr.'s most recent fight:
 

HD.... Are we mixing up left and right? 

@zarog
 It looks like you are mixing up left from Right.

Right is Julio Caesar Chavez

on the left is

The Original "Hands Of Stone"

* Edited at 09.30.2012, 11:17 AM ET *

Did you know Bruce Lee was inspired by Boxing (Ali, Pep,Dempsey,Louis) to develop his martial art 'Jeet Kun Do' ?!! (MUST READ very interesting)

“Most people aren’t aware of it, but Bruce Lee was very into boxing. Scientific boxing.”

Dan Inosanto (student of Bruce Lee. Inosanto is one of three people allowed by Bruce Lee to teach his Martial Arts system (Taky Kimura and James Yimm Lee being the other two) and the only one to be given Instructorship in Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do of the third level.)

Boxing was part of Lee’s beginning. He boxed in Hong Kong as a teenager and was good enough to win a tournament involving fifteen high schools in the late fifties. Inosanto is confident that he could have been a top-ranked lightweight in the sixties, during the era of Carlos Ortiz. His intensity, speed, and dynamism would have been assets, though what would have set him apart was the “unbelievable power” he could generate despite his size.

In 1959, Lee left Hong Kong and began teaching Wing Chun in the United States. He had not, at the time, evolved out of the traditional school of martial arts with its upright stance and straight-ahead attack and he had not yet incorporated the feints, angles, and broken rhythm he would become known for. 

It took a Golden Gloves boxer named Leo Fong to demonstrate the value of these decidedly Western ideas. He did it by inviting Lee to attack him. Lee rushed forward with chopping hands and Fong simply stepped off to one side and turned over a left hook. It was an epiphany for the young master. Fong would soon convince him that the typical martial artist’s stance, with the lead hand held high and the back hand held by the solar plexus, was inferior to the American boxer’s stance, where the lead hand is low and the back hand is high enough to protect the chin. 

“I like it because I can’t trap your lead hand” Lee told Fong. 

“Over the next few years” Fong recalled “Bruce completely changed his primary fighting stance and eventually adopted more of a boxing stance as his own.” This happened around the time that Lee began developing his dynamic style.

Boxing : Practical, Spontaneous, and Multidimensional may have been the impetus that shifted Lee away from traditional forms and toward the fighting system that became Jeet Kune Do.

The Tao of Jeet Kune Do, which is a compilation of his notes, relies heavily on boxing principles. Lee referenced Jack Dempsey and Edwin L. Haislet’s Boxing (1940) at least twenty times. He reportedly owned more than a hundred Boxing Books in his library.

He also owned one of the Largest Collections of Fight Films in the country and would invite associates to his house for marathon viewings on Wednesdays. 

“Bruce used to analyze those films” recalled one of them. “We could only take it for a couple of hours, but Bruce could sit there for eight or 10 hours and still show the same interest and enthusiasm he showed in the first five minutes.” 

He was capable of mimicking not just the Ali shuffle, but the Sharkey roll, Joe Louis’s six-inch punch, and Kid Gavilan’s bolo punch (which was, incidentally, another import from the East, as is the bolo itself. Filipino fighters based in California during the 1930s introduced it.) Whenever a move interested him, Lee, a southpaw, would rewind the film, stand and turn his back to watch it in a mirror, and practice it.

Joe Lewis, a karate champion, attended the “Wednesday Night Fights” hosted by Lee. 

“Willie Pep, reputed by many to be pound for pound the best boxer of all time” he said “was the fighter whose footwork Bruce and I would study.”

Lee’s dancing footwork wasn’t his own it was Willie Pep’s. Boxing begins and ends the 
circle.

And that is why they call it the Sweet Science.

Guess who is a big boxing fan, ohh yes it is professional bad ass, the one and only Liam Neeson

a very good Q&A on how boxing in Liam's perspective has been making a difference in his life as a fan.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/8460007/liam-neeson-sits-espn-boxing-conversation

just to name a few

Really interesting article here: http://mma-boxing.si.com/2012/10/08/roundtable-does-arturo-gatti-belong-in-the-hall-of-fame/?sct=mma_t11_a0

What do you guys think? Should Gatti be inducted into the Hall of Fame? This one is difficult for me. On the one hand, his skills and record aren't anywhere near what most of the other inductees are, but a part of me feels that what he did was transcending the sport. If there were ever a man to embody what boxing is, Gatti is that individual, and I think that counts for something. For that reason, Gatti would certainly get my vote. (Also, if Sylvester Stallone is important enough to be in the Hall, then Gatti should make it.)

In case you don't have a frame of reference for whom we're discussing:

@Zarog, Is Stallone seriously in the boxing hall of fame? I believe I read something about that. If Stallone is there, I think it just turns the Hall into a joke.

I'm almost positive Stallone is in the Boxing HoF. 

@kallous Rocky helped bring a lot of interest back to boxing is my guess. I would assume he inspired many people to go and try boxing too. I think it is weird as well, to be honest.

@kallous He is, but in the Observer section. He did great things for boxing by creating Rocky. Bert Sugar also is in the HoF. So, thoughts on Gatti being inducted?

I'd like to see Gatti in the hall of fame but that is purely because Gatti-Ward is the greatest boxing match I've ever seen. Then again, I don't watch as much boxing as my friends do.

2013, he's being inducted. I thought it was official.

@Anik No. This is the first year he's eligible for the ballot. Voters are currently deciding whether or not he should be inducted.

I say Gatti should get in, even though it was tragic on how he died he did do a lot for the sport of boxing.

He won titles in the Super Featherweight, Light Welterweight, and Welterweight Divisions

Received Fight of the Year 4 times (1997, 1998, 2002, and 2003)

he fought huge names such as, De La Hoya, Mayweather, and Micky Ward X3

and retired with a 40-9 record

He may not have been the best but he had huge heart and put on a show every time he fought.

so I say the chances for him getting in are very good.