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12.06.2020 | 9:35 PM ET
Dana White said in response to the release of Yoel Romero that at least 60 fighters in addition will be removed from the roster in the next coming weeks. What are your predictions?
Based on last night I would say Gian Villante and Matt Wiman for sure.
Based on last night I would say Gian Villante and Matt Wiman for sure.
* Edited at 12.06.2020, 9:37 PM ET *
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12.07.2020 | 12:28 AM ET
I bet they cut alot of the good fighter and kept all the bums who fight for 10k because UFC fan including myself would pay money to watch Geese fight
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12.07.2020 | 12:50 AM ET
Not a good sign. 60 fighters isn't exactly a haircut and they're clearly not doing great.
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12.07.2020 | 1:12 AM ET
I hope they cut people with losing records in the company and don't make more BS cuts like Romero, but they'll probably make more BS cuts.
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12.07.2020 | 1:27 AM ET
This is unlikely. More likely vets will be cut as they are expensive to retain due to pay scaling being cumulative. Guys like Swanson, Rua etc. It's probably going to be about draw value more than wins/losses on records elsewhere. Probably a lot of the guys who have been around forever like Cerrone will get a Golden handshake type deal and get something like a redundancy payment. They're due to bow out anyway really. UFC does trim the fat every year but yeah, 60 is a big number.
Piracy is probably a big part of this. I was surprised to learn that a pirate streaming service that pretty much only publishes Boxing and MMA streams gets more traffic than the UFC website itself and any other MMA related site. That's on top of Covid and no gate sales offseting payments. ****'s probably very lean. Really UFC maintains market dominance by signing up pretty much all the talent...they kind of salt the Earth and it's very tough for would-be promotions to get off the ground accordingly. Pretty much all the other promotions we have now are really just glorified feeder promotions for UFC anyway. It works, but it's only sustainable to have a hugely bloated roster as long as consistent money keeps rolling in week-to-week.
Piracy is probably a big part of this. I was surprised to learn that a pirate streaming service that pretty much only publishes Boxing and MMA streams gets more traffic than the UFC website itself and any other MMA related site. That's on top of Covid and no gate sales offseting payments. ****'s probably very lean. Really UFC maintains market dominance by signing up pretty much all the talent...they kind of salt the Earth and it's very tough for would-be promotions to get off the ground accordingly. Pretty much all the other promotions we have now are really just glorified feeder promotions for UFC anyway. It works, but it's only sustainable to have a hugely bloated roster as long as consistent money keeps rolling in week-to-week.
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12.07.2020 | 9:58 AM ET
60 fighters cut means they probably dont hold show every saturday in 2021 :(
HW: Illir Latifi, Yorgan De Castro, Jeff Hughes, Juan Adams
LHW: Tyson Pedro, Ghadzimurad Antigulov, Darko Stosic, Justin Ledet,
MW: Alessio DI CHirico, Deron winn, Marc-André Bariault(not re-sign), Trevor Smith, John Phillips, Charles Byrd(maybe its already done), Alen Amedovski,
WW: Robie Lawler, Laureano Staropoli, Emil Meek(already done?), Court Mcgee, Rhys Mckee, Cole williams, Hector ALdana, Rostem Akman. I think Woodley is one lost away to being cut and Cerrone soon receive the retirement talk like Silva or Weidman had,
LW: Yancy Medeiros, Joe Duffy, Matt Wiman, kevin Aguillar, Jessin Ayari, Dung Ma
FW: Jeremy Stephens, Mirsa Bektic, nad Narimani, kyle bochniak,
BW: Raphael Assuncao, Journey Newson, Martin Day, Mark de la rosa(already cut?), Aiemann Zahabi if he lose,
FLW: Jussier Formiga, Bruno Silva,
WB: Ashley Evans Smith
WFL: Andrea Lee(if she lose next week-end), Rachael Ostovich, Lauren Mueller (already cut?),
WS: Karolina Kowalkiewichz, Felice Herrig, hannah ciffers,
* Some of the MW could be invited to next TUFF
**Latifi, Lawler, Stephens, Assunca, Formiga are big names (ranked guy) but they are all old, on bad loosing streak, and earning bigger salarry then guy who kick their ass.
***Making this list was lot longer then expeted!
HW: Illir Latifi, Yorgan De Castro, Jeff Hughes, Juan Adams
LHW: Tyson Pedro, Ghadzimurad Antigulov, Darko Stosic, Justin Ledet,
MW: Alessio DI CHirico, Deron winn, Marc-André Bariault(not re-sign), Trevor Smith, John Phillips, Charles Byrd(maybe its already done), Alen Amedovski,
WW: Robie Lawler, Laureano Staropoli, Emil Meek(already done?), Court Mcgee, Rhys Mckee, Cole williams, Hector ALdana, Rostem Akman. I think Woodley is one lost away to being cut and Cerrone soon receive the retirement talk like Silva or Weidman had,
LW: Yancy Medeiros, Joe Duffy, Matt Wiman, kevin Aguillar, Jessin Ayari, Dung Ma
FW: Jeremy Stephens, Mirsa Bektic, nad Narimani, kyle bochniak,
BW: Raphael Assuncao, Journey Newson, Martin Day, Mark de la rosa(already cut?), Aiemann Zahabi if he lose,
FLW: Jussier Formiga, Bruno Silva,
WB: Ashley Evans Smith
WFL: Andrea Lee(if she lose next week-end), Rachael Ostovich, Lauren Mueller (already cut?),
WS: Karolina Kowalkiewichz, Felice Herrig, hannah ciffers,
* Some of the MW could be invited to next TUFF
**Latifi, Lawler, Stephens, Assunca, Formiga are big names (ranked guy) but they are all old, on bad loosing streak, and earning bigger salarry then guy who kick their ass.
***Making this list was lot longer then expeted!
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12.07.2020 | 10:14 AM ET
Damn that’s a lot cut & lets hope they have a show every weekend or that would majorly suck!
12.07.2020 | 10:30 AM ET
@hyrm a few of those people you mentioned are gone. I think Stephens should stay
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12.07.2020 | 1:48 PM ET
It would honestly hurt a lot to see Robbie get cut, I think they cut a few more of the fighter they sign during Corona
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12.07.2020 | 3:20 PM ET
Stephens & Lawler are fun to watch but
Lawler 38years old lost 4 in a row Career Disclosed Earnings: $3,709,940 USD
Stephens 34years old lost 4 in a row probably top 5 higher pay check in is weight class
Lawler 38years old lost 4 in a row Career Disclosed Earnings: $3,709,940 USD
Stephens 34years old lost 4 in a row probably top 5 higher pay check in is weight class
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12.07.2020 | 3:47 PM ET
Not a terrible idea cut some and give them a shot at Tuf for a comeback series probably not gonna happen but would be an option.
Cutting Robbie is ******** he has huge fan base and mostly lost too top tier and one bs fake sub.
Otherwise cut away new blood is good, but firing former champs and cult heroes is bad business.
Unpopular opinion they should fire the 30 or so unwanted Russian and other sov bloc ****s they picked up with kbob.
Cutting Robbie is ******** he has huge fan base and mostly lost too top tier and one bs fake sub.
Otherwise cut away new blood is good, but firing former champs and cult heroes is bad business.
Unpopular opinion they should fire the 30 or so unwanted Russian and other sov bloc ****s they picked up with kbob.
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12.07.2020 | 5:05 PM ET
Yoel was 1-4 in his last 5. that's a losing record to me. plus, he could/would beat contender Noname "next thing" prospect.
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12.07.2020 | 5:07 PM ET
Now hat khabib is now yeah they should cut many russian decisionator that we dont give a ****.
Maybe they will set Woodley-Lawler 2 as a fight for you're job bout.
Maybe they will set Woodley-Lawler 2 as a fight for you're job bout.
* Edited at 12.07.2020, 5:08 PM ET *
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12.07.2020 | 5:16 PM ET
Solution
take 8 fighters from every division, tournament style eliminations, lose, you are out. No. 1, 2, and 3 survive. 5 leave, 12 division times five = 60, case closed. Who do you think the fighters should be? by division?
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12.07.2020 | 5:20 PM ET
Heavyweight: Stefan Struve, Gian Villante, Raphael Pessoa, Chris De La Rocha, Yorgan De Castro, Marcos Rogerio de Lima, Roque Martinez
Light Heavyweight: Shogun Rua, Klidson Abreau,
Middleweight: Trevor Smith, Alessio De Chrico, Jack Marshman, Saparbek Safarov, Adam Yandiev, Alen Amedoovski, Markus Perez
Welterweight: Diego Sanchez, Erik Koch, Siyar Bahadurzada, Brad Scott, Mickey Gall, Anthony Ivy, Rhys Mckee, Emil Meek
Lightweight: Matt Wiman, Alex White, Alexander Yakovlev, Teemu Packalan, Joaquim Silva, Chris Gruetzemacher, Jessin Ayari, Davi Ramos, Frank Camacho, Alex Reyes, Alex Da Silva, Mike Davis, Rodrigo Vargas, Jamie Mullarkey, Brook Weaver, Yancey Medeiros
Featherweight: Thomas Almeida, Daniel Teymur, Danny Henry, Matt Sayles, Kyle Nelson, Chris Fishgold, Vince Morales, Suman Mokhtarian, Jordan Griffin,T.J. Brown,
Bantamweight: Eddie Wineland, Johnny Eduardo, Mitch Gagnon, Ryan Benoit, Frankie Saenz, Guido Canetti, Luke Sanders, Kwan Ho Kwak, Bharat Khandare, Mark De La Rosa, Martin Day, Geraldo de Freitas, Felipe Colares, Journey Newson, Gabriel Silva, Domingo Pilarte, Ali Alquaisi,
Flyweight: Bruno Silva, Malcolm Gordon
Women's Bantamweight: Sarah Moras, Ashlee Evans-Smith, Veronica Macedo, Vanessa Melo
Women's Flyweight: Justine Kish, Ji Yeon Kim, Rachel Ostovich, Priscila Cachoeira
Women's Strawweight: Jessica Penne, Randa Markos, Alex Chambers, Aleksandra Albu, Syuri Kondo, Hannah Cifers
Source: List of Current UFC Fighters on Wikipedia
Probably some other shockers if they cut Yoel Romero...most of these are mid and lower level fighters
Light Heavyweight: Shogun Rua, Klidson Abreau,
Middleweight: Trevor Smith, Alessio De Chrico, Jack Marshman, Saparbek Safarov, Adam Yandiev, Alen Amedoovski, Markus Perez
Welterweight: Diego Sanchez, Erik Koch, Siyar Bahadurzada, Brad Scott, Mickey Gall, Anthony Ivy, Rhys Mckee, Emil Meek
Lightweight: Matt Wiman, Alex White, Alexander Yakovlev, Teemu Packalan, Joaquim Silva, Chris Gruetzemacher, Jessin Ayari, Davi Ramos, Frank Camacho, Alex Reyes, Alex Da Silva, Mike Davis, Rodrigo Vargas, Jamie Mullarkey, Brook Weaver, Yancey Medeiros
Featherweight: Thomas Almeida, Daniel Teymur, Danny Henry, Matt Sayles, Kyle Nelson, Chris Fishgold, Vince Morales, Suman Mokhtarian, Jordan Griffin,T.J. Brown,
Bantamweight: Eddie Wineland, Johnny Eduardo, Mitch Gagnon, Ryan Benoit, Frankie Saenz, Guido Canetti, Luke Sanders, Kwan Ho Kwak, Bharat Khandare, Mark De La Rosa, Martin Day, Geraldo de Freitas, Felipe Colares, Journey Newson, Gabriel Silva, Domingo Pilarte, Ali Alquaisi,
Flyweight: Bruno Silva, Malcolm Gordon
Women's Bantamweight: Sarah Moras, Ashlee Evans-Smith, Veronica Macedo, Vanessa Melo
Women's Flyweight: Justine Kish, Ji Yeon Kim, Rachel Ostovich, Priscila Cachoeira
Women's Strawweight: Jessica Penne, Randa Markos, Alex Chambers, Aleksandra Albu, Syuri Kondo, Hannah Cifers
Source: List of Current UFC Fighters on Wikipedia
Probably some other shockers if they cut Yoel Romero...most of these are mid and lower level fighters
* Edited at 12.07.2020, 5:22 PM ET *
12.07.2020 | 5:23 PM ET
@vertisol talented wise you're list is good but I think UFC look at the sallary and age when choosing who they cut.
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12.08.2020 | 1:44 AM ET
As much as it pains me to say it i doubt Arlovski is gonna be on the roster much longer, His current contract is like 300k show
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12.08.2020 | 3:04 AM ET
IDK, Arlovski's already been on some big ass losing streaks and been kept on. Now that he's been winning lately it'd be weird to get rid of him.
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12.08.2020 | 8:13 AM ET
He can be cut on a win unless is contract expired. Dana prize him after last win even if it was boring.
* Edited at 12.08.2020, 8:13 AM ET *
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